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08-24-2006, 05:15 AM
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#121 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | Hunter no matter how you look at it, it was a British Victory. Who cares about number of aircraft destroyed or civilians killed. It was a victory for the British.
Did the British prevent the Germans from destroying the RAF? Yes.
Did the British prevent the Germans from destroying the British factories? Yes.
Did the Germans invade England? No.
Therefore it was a British Victory.
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08-24-2006, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet Hunter no matter how you look at it, it was a British Victory. Who cares about number of aircraft destroyed or civilians killed. It was a victory for the British.
Did the British prevent the Germans from destroying the RAF? Yes.
Did the British prevent the Germans from destroying the British factories? Yes.
Did the Germans invade England? No.
Therefore it was a British Victory. | I agree with you Chris, thats what I said. The first post was a mistake, I said that in later post. I have been very very sick this week, on several meds right now. My mind is alittle foggy these days, I am sorry.
What I did say was I didn't think it was a one sided decisive victory for the UK. Victory...yes but not a one sided decisive victory for UK.
The other night I asked my wife where the pizza was I am hungry. She said what pizza? I said the pizza we had last night for supper. She said .....Mark we have not eaten pizza in a week. I went back to bed to get more sleep and rest. Yikes
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08-25-2006, 02:42 AM
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#123 | | Senior Member
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08-25-2006, 08:22 AM
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#124 | | Senior Member
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Country: | Getting better, only one day left of the meds. Thanks
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08-25-2006, 10:36 AM
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#125 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by Hunter368 I said that in later post. | Oops sorry missed that. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Hunter 368 I have been very very sick this week, on several meds right now. My mind is alittle foggy these days, I am sorry. | Hope you get better. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Hunter368 What I did say was I didn't think it was a one sided decisive victory for the UK. Victory...yes but not a one sided decisive victory for UK. | Most victories are not completely one sided anyhow... Quote: |
Originally Posted by Hunter368 The other night I asked my wife where the pizza was I am hungry. She said what pizza? I said the pizza we had last night for supper. She said .....Mark we have not eaten pizza in a week. I went back to bed to get more sleep and rest. Yikes | 
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08-25-2006, 11:48 AM
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#126 | | the old Sage
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Country: | Meds, meds ? did someone say meds..........
yes I know the crap feeling, Hunter get better. and my sig says it all, smooth to cut the air, aerodynamic as can be it's a Mustang if you see ..........Blue nose bastards to rip the air, good grief I've got little hair !
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08-25-2006, 11:57 AM
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Country: | Thanks guys, I am starting to feel better after the meds have kicked in and had a chance to do their magic. Feeling much better ......about 75% now.
Chris I agree not alot of battle are clear one sided decisive victory. Thats all I was saying, BoB was not one for UK. I feel that the German air victory over Russia in 41 was decisive victory, as was the Allied one over the Germans in France in 44. USA was one in South Pacific in 43-44 was also one. But there is not many of them in WW2.
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08-25-2006, 04:04 PM
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Country: | Still though the British inflicted more losses to the germans and the invasion never occured. In my opinion thats decisive enough because it just as easily have been a loss and the invasion could have occcured. Whether the invasion would've succeeded we'll never know, thankfully.
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#130 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country:  | I think that the P-38 Lightning and the P-51 Mustang were approximately equal in Fighter characteristics. The only reason the P-38 Lightning was not really used in Europe was that when the US entered WW2 they had Britain as a base for their P-51 Mustangs to act as escorts from. Also the P-38 Lightnings were needed more in the Pacific theatre where they needed a long-range escort fighter. Therefore that is why the P-38 Lightning was a rarity in the war against Germany, however some did participate it seems as I have a photo of a P-38 Lightning done in yellow underbody and greenish brown top-coat with a Nazi symbol on it as a captured P-38 Lightning by the Germans. Germans must have thought it had some good combat characteristics to repaint and repair such a rare aircraft from their perspective, and also we have the wanted posters about the P-51 Mustang so both of these aircraft seem to have struck fear into the Germans. The P-38 Lightning remarkably so considering that everything I have seen seems to indicate that they were in very few numbers in the Western theatre of WW2... | |
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03-04-2007, 08:30 PM
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#133 | | the old Sage
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Country: | I would not call it a rarity as the 15th AF 1st, 14th and 82nd fg's had some pretty dang good scores with the 38 in the MTO/ETO. they even tangled with 262's in December 44 and February 45 damaging several. the 474th fg from the 9th AF was a pretty good outfit as well .......... the 370th fg also flew the 38 till late in the war then flying P-51's
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03-04-2007, 08:34 PM
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Country: | Okay, I hadn't found out that they were flown much in the European theatre and therefore assumed that they were rare. Anyway, must remember when I get the chance to post some images of captured P-51 Mustangs and P-38 Lightnings I have. | |
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03-04-2007, 08:58 PM
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#135 | | the old Sage
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Country: | captured examples run by the mobil team of Zirkus Rosarius which also included RAF and US bombers/fighters for purposes of teaching Luftwaffe single and twin engine fighters and NF's crews on ways/means of attack and the weak points of Allied a/c. From November 43 till wars end the 15th AF was running right up the butt of the Reich - Südfront in Yugoslavia, Austria and Bavaria even up into Central Germany
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