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06-30-2004, 04:54 PM
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#121 | | Facetious Extraordinaire
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Country:  | You have to admit though that you can't really compare the two as the P-38 was made as a Fighter and the Mossie as a Fighter-Bomber. Both were very good Planes, but in their own area's 
But the P-38 had the same diving problem lower down as well, m8.
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06-30-2004, 05:37 PM
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| Technically the mossie was designed as a Bomber. | |
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06-30-2004, 05:39 PM
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#123 | | Facetious Extraordinaire
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Country: | Yes, m8. And that's the difference. The D.H Hornet was fighter version shall I say of the Mossie, but the Mossie still comes out tops in some area's.
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06-30-2004, 11:09 PM
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| There was no problem with compressibility at low altitudes. As quickly as the P-38 accelerated, it took a little while for enough speed to build up for compressibility to occur. At lower altitudes, the P-38 wouldn't be in the dive long enough for this to occur. That is why you hear of very few instances of compressibility occuring in the MTO or PTO where combat was generally at medium to low altitudes. Furthermore, the onset of compressibility was delated by the thinner air at lower altitudes.
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07-01-2004, 01:28 PM
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#125 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | i doubt there was a version of a P-38 that could beat the 3,500mile range of a late war PR mossie??
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07-02-2004, 12:25 AM
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| F-5G - 3,750miles.
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07-02-2004, 07:43 AM
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| Mosquito or P-38?
P-38 was heavily armoured and could take a beating. But the Mosquito was quicker, lighter, more manouverable. Besides, I was born in Canada. De Havilland made the mozzie, gotta support the home side!
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Country:  | The "mossie" was basicly made from wood. now wood isn't a very good type of armor (heck i don't think it is armor) but the P38 as you all know is made from all american steel so the p38 was better than the "mossie" in the armor catagory
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07-02-2004, 01:42 PM
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#129 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | in armour yes, but the mossie could still take one hell of a beating, it took damage to th fusilage like a sponge.....................
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07-02-2004, 04:34 PM
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#130 | | Facetious Extraordinaire
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Country: | I think what folk's are missing here is that the P-38 was a Fighter, chaps 
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07-03-2004, 02:44 AM
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Country: | The Mosquito could take a beating more than most. It was a very durable plane, which is amazing being made of wood.
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07-03-2004, 06:41 AM
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#132 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | the fact that it was wood was what gave it allot of that durability, if it was a stressed metal skin, if you were hit it would leave a large rip/hole, but with the wood it onlt left a tiny where the bullet had gone straight trough....................... Quote: |
I think what folk's are missing here is that the P-38 was a Fighter
| so were some varients of the mossie...........................
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07-06-2004, 11:56 PM
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| There were no true day-fighter marks of the Mossie to go into service. The P-38 could outmaneuver the Mossie, outclimb it, and most marks could outrun in. In air-to-air, the P-38 takes the Mossie, no two ways about it.
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07-07-2004, 01:13 PM
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#134 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | i never said it didn't, but that's the only time a P-38 would beat a mossie, you have to admit that??
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#135 | | Hairy one of Old Judea
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Air is thinner the HIGHER you go. So air at low altitiude is (comparatively speaking, this is a gas you know) 'thicker' than at height.
Comparing the Mosquito & the P38 is like comparing apples and guavas, now if it were the beaufighter and p-38, thats different.
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