 |
09-13-2005, 04:05 PM
|
#151 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 8,477
| [quote="wmaxt"] Quote: |
Originally Posted by plan_D ....Also the P-38 was Second sourced in Jan '45 a YEAR after the P-51s wmaxt | I didnt think the P38 was second sourced at all. Some people called it a criminal act for not to second source the P38 back in 1942, and instead put money and effort into P40's and P39's.
__________________ "Pilot to copilot..... what are those mountain goats doing up here in the clouds?" |
| |
09-13-2005, 04:54 PM
|
#152 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Boise, Idaho
Posts: 1,178
| [quote="syscom3"] Quote: |
Originally Posted by wmaxt Quote: |
Originally Posted by plan_D ....Also the P-38 was Second sourced in Jan '45 a YEAR after the P-51s wmaxt | I didnt think the P38 was second sourced at all. Some people called it a criminal act for not to second source the P38 back in 1942, and instead put money and effort into P40's and P39's. | Consolidated-Vultee built 113 L models in '45. They had done some parts before that so it was a natural.
I agree with that. The WPB also nixed the K model and the unified engine controls that would have really extended the high speed cruise, not to mention simplified the cocpit helping new pilots a bunch.
wmaxt |
| |
09-14-2005, 10:24 PM
|
#153 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 8,477
| wmaxt, youre right. C-V built some P38's at their Nashville plant. I had forgot about them. Than ks for reminding me.
Im looking at my P38 book. They were P38L-5-VN, tail numbers 43-50226 through 43-50338. I dont have any delivery dates for them. Ayone know? The book has a big blank on delivery date for this batch.
__________________ "Pilot to copilot..... what are those mountain goats doing up here in the clouds?" |
| |
09-14-2005, 11:12 PM
|
#154 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado, USA
Posts: 13,585
Country: | Quote: |
Originally Posted by syscom3 wmaxt, youre right. C-V built some P38's at their Nashville plant. I had forgot about them. Than ks for reminding me.
Im looking at my P38 book. They were P38L-5-VN, tail numbers 43-50226 through 43-50338. I dont have any delivery dates for them. Ayone know? The book has a big blank on delivery date for this batch. | They might of been scrapped at the factory....
__________________ "IF ITS RED OR DUSTY, DON'T TOUCH IT" |
| |
09-15-2005, 07:12 AM
|
#155 | | "Shooter"
Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA
Posts: 12,880
Country: | Here is what I have:
43-50226/50338 Lockheed P-38L-5-VN Lightning
50281 (F-5G-6-LO)
50310 to NC75666, to the Caribbean Legion on Cayo Confites base of MRD (Movimiento Revolucionaria Dominicano), 08/47 taken over by Cuba as CAEC 126
50312 to NL5016N, to the Caribbean Legion on Cayo Confites base of MRD (Movimiento Revolucionaria Dominicano), 08/47 taken over by Cuba as CAEC 122.
That info is from Joe Baugher's serial number search page. http://home.att.net/~jbaugher/usafserials.html
He has a pretty comprehensive database for serial numbers. He also has one for Navy aircraft.
__________________ http://www.vg-photo.com Wherever their bones may lie, the courage of heroes is consecrated in the hearts and engraved in the history of the free. Lt Col Honner DSO MC, 39th Commander speaking of the dead from the battle of Kokoda. |
| |
10-23-2006, 08:43 PM
|
#156 | | Member
Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mineral wells texas
Posts: 42
| alway think the 47 is a better aircraft for many reasons, but most of all , It is one tuff bird
__________________ love the history and the debate |
| |
10-24-2006, 02:20 PM
|
#157 | | Master of Ewes
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 19,959
Country: | yey... annother dead horse to flog 
__________________ 
"Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy." |
| |
10-24-2006, 02:37 PM
|
#158 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Now in PA!
Posts: 642
Country: | In terms of maintainability, durability, diversity of missions,
and numbers built, then P-47. It's just so damned ugly. |
| |
10-26-2006, 01:58 AM
|
#159 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 103
Country: | Getting shot at...P-47.
Shooting....Pony. |
| |
10-29-2006, 01:49 AM
|
#160 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Colorado, USA
Posts: 1,517
Country: | Yeeeeeeeeehaaaaaww!!!
__________________ 
"His motor's conked out!"
"What's the differance, they're all Nazis!"
"Luke, shut up!"
"Fear the hook!"
"Oh.....I wanna fly."
"You mean the kind that go under water and fly up the stairs?"
"What you doing? Oh Nooooo!" |
| |
03-03-2008, 04:06 PM
|
#161 | | Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 2
Country: | is the picture above a TA-152 or a FW-190 D9. It is amazing to me herr Hitler limited the long nose focke wulf to ground attack. There may be limitations I do not know about but it would seem that this airplane would have been a good stopgap until the ME-262 came along |
| |
03-03-2008, 05:17 PM
|
#162 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Texas
Posts: 880
Country: | Looks like a tie to me. Back in the 90's I was digging around a used book store for aircraft book when the lady I was with started talking to an elderly man. He was a big firt. It ended up that he flew P-47 and transitioned into the A-37 and then P-51. I talked with him several years ago. I think he was in MTO. He did not have any air kills. He flew CAS missions. THe pilot said that everyone was always surprised that he liked the P-51 over the P-47 for the ground attacks. He said that the handling ablilies of the P-51 more than make up for having only six .50 cals and the fact the P-47 could handle more damage.
I am leaning toward the P-47 Razorbacks.
DBII |
| |
03-05-2008, 12:27 PM
|
#163 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: oregon
Posts: 2,497
Country: | Quote:
Originally Posted by evangilder Here is what I have:
43-50226/50338 Lockheed P-38L-5-VN Lightning
50281 (F-5G-6-LO)
50310 to NC75666, to the Caribbean Legion on Cayo Confites base of MRD (Movimiento Revolucionaria Dominicano), 08/47 taken over by Cuba as CAEC 126
50312 to NL5016N, to the Caribbean Legion on Cayo Confites base of MRD (Movimiento Revolucionaria Dominicano), 08/47 taken over by Cuba as CAEC 122.
That info is from Joe Baugher's serial number search page. USAAS-USAAC-USAAF-USAF Aircraft Serial Numbers--1908 to Present
He has a pretty comprehensive database for serial numbers. He also has one for Navy aircraft. | His data base is extensive. In the research I did on 355th and SF a/c I found a high error rate, however, so my opinion is use it as a start - collect and correct from other sources, then send Joe your updates to help this public source improve over time.
Still a superb place to start. |
| |
03-05-2008, 03:12 PM
|
#164 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Cardiff
Posts: 180
Country: | From a British perspective - it has to the Mustang! After all if it wasn't for the British Purchasing Commission, North American wouldn't have designed and built it! |
| |
03-07-2008, 11:30 AM
|
#165 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 368
Country: | now from what a vet said to one of my friends if you flying a p-47d if you put the thottle at like 1/4 power and pull flaps all the way out if would almost turn on its axis |
| | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:47 PM. |  | |