Pick 6 a/c to build your AF at beginning WWII

[drgondog]

Originally Posted by pbfoot

I'll stick with Canada and will concentrate on taking on the Atlantic for ASW rather then heavy bombing having a tacticle component operating out the British Isles or continent
I would have LB4Y Privateer as my primary ASW aircraft operating from North America , Azores, Iceland and Africa I could do a pretty fair job on the U boats
My CAP aircraft would be the Tempest just to be a little different
with Mossies that could play the Maritime/Tacticle/Intruder aircraft with a semi strategic value
Transport would be the Lockheed C69 Constellation because of the distances involved in supplying the bases
The training would be done with the Arado 96 and C45 just to make sure I didn't waste potential new aircrew with overwhelming aircraft making smoking holes all over the countryside
ASW LB4Y Privateer
Fighter Tempest
Tacticle/Maritime Strike Mossie
Transport C69 Constellation
Trainer Arado 96
Utility/Trainer C45 "Bugsmasher"

Pb - This is a clever selection of mission and mix. I might have scrapped the C-45 and kept the C-47. I've had some right seat time in the both and the C-47 in my opinion is as easy (maybe even more forgiving) than the Beech... that way you have some intermediate, rough field capability to work your infrastructure within Canada or back and forth with intermediate supply runs close to Africa and UK?

Just made me think (unusual) that if Canada performed this role in the Commonwealth, freeing RN and RAF for UK from that mission, I wonder waht the Down Under component would/should specialize in?

Or conversely, what would Italy focus on for Axis? Based on their own strategic guidelines (I think air defense, medium range air and sea attack/defense, and?)

[Glider]

B29 - Long Range Bomber and ASW (OK it didn't but why not use it)
Mossie, - NF/PR/Medium Bomber/Strike
Tempest - GA Low/Medium fighter
HA Fighter - TA152
Transport - C47
Trainer - AT6

[drgondog]

Originally Posted by Glider

B29 - Long Range Bomber and ASW (OK it didn't but why not use it)
Mossie, - NF/PR/Medium Bomber/Strike
Tempest - GA Low/Medium fighter
HA Fighter - TA152
Transport - C47
Trainer - AT6

I assume no daytime strategic missions or even daylight intermediate strikes in high threat target areas? The B-29A should be 'adaptable' to all long and medium range strike missions so ASW, Mine Laying, long range anti shipping, even night strategic missions w/o factory modification - so you wouldn't need escort fighters as much as for daylight raids..

Was there a specific Mossie version that was both a Night Fighter and had bomb carrying capability? If there was then I would switch my Mk XVI to it?

[Wildcat]

My choices for the RAAF engaged in operations in Australia/Pacific region.

B29 - Long range bomber and mine laying.
P51 - Intercepter/escort/TacR/ground attack
Beaufighter - ground attack/maritime strike/NF
PBY - Recon/ASW/ASR/Night bomber/mine laying/convoy patrol/maritime strike/special duties
C47 - transport
Wirraway - trainer/Army co-op/light bomber/TacR

I tried to pick a/c that were versitile enough to use in many different roles that would involve long ranges over jungle and water. The B29s would be used against strategic targets and the mining of enemy held ports and sea lanes. I would probably use them in the anti shipping role aswell for targets outside the range of the Beaufighters and Mustangs.
I chose the Beaufighter over the mossie simply because it had less trouble in the humid tropics were it would be employed. It would be my primary strike a/c plus my NF force. Could also be employed as a day fighter if need be.
I chose the Mustang simply because of its range and the fact that some Australian built Mustangs were fitted with cameras filling my PR role. Also handy in the ground attack role, though I would probably prefer the Corsair for this.
Due to the vast amounts of water to be patroled I chose the PBY to fill my ASW/ maritime patrol role. Also be employed as a mine layer/night bomber/anti-shipping a/c (night only) as per the RAAF's black cats of WWII. I chose this over the B-24 simply because I can use it for vital ASR work for downed aircrew. Also be used for special duties behind enemy lines (Clandestine missions/resupply etc).
I think the Wirraway was a good choice because apart from a trainer it would also be employed in the Army co-op/ light bomber (dive)/ TacR role which proved itself invaluable in New Guinea in WWII. If things got real desperate, could also be thrown in the air defence role too. However I'd hate to be the man to give that order!

[drgondog]

Originally Posted by Wildcat

My choices for the RAAF engaged in operations in Australia/Pacific region.

B29 - Long range bomber and mine laying.
P51 - Intercepter/escort/TacR/ground attack
Beaufighter - ground attack/maritime strike/NF
PBY - Recon/ASW/ASR/Night bomber/mine laying/convoy patrol/maritime strike/special duties
C47 - transport
Wirraway - trainer/Army co-op/light bomber/TacR

Why pick a PBY over say a Mariner? Good chices for the mission for sure.

I tried to pick a/c that were versitile enough to use in many different roles that would involve long ranges over jungle and water. The B29s would be used against strategic targets and the mining of enemy held ports and sea lanes. I would probably use them in the anti shipping role aswell for targets outside the range of the Beaufighters and Mustangs.
I chose the Beaufighter over the mossie simply because it had less trouble in the humid tropics were it would be employed. It would be my primary strike a/c plus my NF force. Could also be employed as a day fighter if need be.
I chose the Mustang simply because of its range and the fact that some Australian built Mustangs were fitted with cameras filling my PR role. Also handy in the ground attack role, though I would probably prefer the Corsair for this.
Due to the vast amounts of water to be patroled I chose the PBY to fill my ASW/ maritime patrol role. Also be employed as a mine layer/night bomber/anti-shipping a/c (night only) as per the RAAF's black cats of WWII. I chose this over the B-24 simply because I can use it for vital ASR work for downed aircrew. Also be used for special duties behind enemy lines (Clandestine missions/resupply etc).
I think the Wirraway was a good choice because apart from a trainer it would also be employed in the Army co-op/ light bomber (dive)/ TacR role which proved itself invaluable in New Guinea in WWII. If things got real desperate, could also be thrown in the air defence role too. However I'd hate to be the man to give that order!

One of the struggles I have about B-29 is airfield preparation and logistic requirements. If your base is primarily Australia/New Zealand this is a non issue but until the bases are taken to strike Japan the B-24 and Lancaster would be pretty hard to beat. For`ANZAC I wonder if either a B-24 or Lanc is a better Choice or even a Mossie XVI?

If you have a Pappy Gunn in RAAF you could probably put a field modifies 'hard nose' on the Mossie and extend the versatility. Just wouldn't have the range to do mine laying until Iwo Jima taken.. I'm assuming mine laying not truly effective until you can saturate Japan waters and ports?

[Soren]

Ar-232 = Transport.
Ta-152H = Figher escort, air superiority fighter, high alt interceptor & recce.
Fw-190 = std. air superiority fighter & fighter bomber.
F4U = Carrier fighter & fighter bomber.
Me-262 = Interceptor, night fighter & air superiority fighter.
B-29 = High alt strategic bomber.

[ToughOmbre]

PBY-5A, Recon, Rescue, Bomber, Patrol etc.
C-47, Cargo/Transport
B-29, Long Range strategic Bomber
B-25, Medium Bomber
F4U, Carrier aircraft, Fighter Bomber
P-51, Long Range Escort Fighter

TO

[comiso90]

I'll take
3 Me262,
1 C-47
2 p-51H

Immediately go on the offensive and clear the sky of all opposition.




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[drgondog]

Originally Posted by Soren

Ar-232 = Transport.
Ta-152H = Figher escort, air superiority fighter, high alt interceptor & recce.
Fw-190 = std. air superiority fighter & fighter bomber.
F4U = Carrier fighter & fighter bomber.
Me-262 = Interceptor, night fighter & air superiority fighter.
B-29 = High alt strategic bomber.

So, Soren - are your carriers just populated with F4U's for anti shipping, ASW and AirCAP or? and is the 'ensign killer' your choice for basic and primary flight training? Is the Ar-232 your multi engine flight trainer for B-29?

Are you picking Germany for the strategic profile/national purpose? If so, do you need to have a carrier fighter in addition to the three other excellent fighter choices.

One thing for sure - you will be hell on other air forces and, as long as the B-29 ops doesn't exceed 600-700 mi radius, you have a chance to achieve air superiority 'over there' - if you can graduate any pilots out of basic.. lot of smoking holes in ground when first flight is solo in one of those birds.

Can we say "whoa Nellie? and hard right foot on the rudder" on that first take-off (with either the 190, the Ta 152 or F4U).

This is turning out to make me think too hard.

[drgondog]

Originally Posted by comiso90

I'll take
3 Me262,
1 C-47
2 p-51H

Immediately go on the offensive and clear the sky of all opposition.




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How do your guys learn how to fly? Lol

Is this the Brazilian Air Force or do you take this to Finland? What is the country and Mission?

[drgondog]

Originally Posted by ToughOmbre

PBY-5A, Recon, Rescue, Bomber, Patrol etc.
C-47, Cargo/Transport
B-29, Long Range strategic Bomber
B-25, Medium Bomber
F4U, Carrier aircraft, Fighter Bomber
P-51, Long Range Escort Fighter

TO

TO - what country and strategic/tactical mission? If you have carriers, do they need bombers to work against the other guy's carriers or subs?

Is the F4U or the P-51 your basic and Primary trainer?

[comiso90]

Originally Posted by drgondog

How do your guys learn how to fly? Lol

IL-2 Sturmovick flight sim of coarse!

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[drgondog]

Originally Posted by comiso90

IL-2 Sturmovick flight sim of coarse!

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The 1939-1945 software/hardware version?

[comiso90]

Originally Posted by drgondog

The 1939-1945 software/hardware version?

Yes... it worked on the ultra device

[ToughOmbre]

Originally Posted by drgondog

TO - what country and strategic/tactical mission? If you have carriers, do they need bombers to work against the other guy's carriers or subs?

Is the F4U or the P-51 your basic and Primary trainer?

In my case I listed the combat aircraft only. Understand the need for trainers, just didn't list them. Six choices are too few.

TO