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09-18-2006, 02:48 PM
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#16 | | Der Crewchief
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__________________  US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | 
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09-18-2006, 02:53 PM
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Country:  | On the subject of the full sized Desert Eagle, which caliber would you prefer it in if you HAD to have it in you military: .44, .357, or .50? On a somewhat related note, I just recently saw the carrying and loading areas for the AR-15's made to fire the snub nose .50, and if that were used it would HURT LIKE **** to be hit by, although the weight restrictions associated with the ammo dictates that general military use is HIGHLY unlikely. Also, If I remember correctly, the Baby Eagle does come in the .40 caliber that the SOCOM and the like forces use. Also, I have very scetchy details about the FiveSeven, the primary weapon in Splinter Cell. I know it exists, it uses a 5.7mm round, but that is about it. Anyone know what the stopping power on that thing is? Accuracy? Range?
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09-18-2006, 04:04 PM
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#18 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country: | .357 cartridge for the DE, and the 57 is a high velocity round that has very little stopping power...
Nice new siggy Chris...
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09-18-2006, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Chief I would prefer the 1911 A1. It works just fine and if it aint broke don't fix it.
Like you said les it's better for CQC. With a 9mm there are only 4 ways to take him down.
1) Head shot
2) Hand
3) Foot
4) Let's just say he won't be having anymore kids. | The ways to take someone down with a 1911?
1) Anywhere without missing.
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Can Someone tell me how many Barreta 9mm rounds you're issued with and how many 1911 .45 rounds you would be issued?
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09-18-2006, 06:00 PM
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09-19-2006, 05:47 AM
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#21 | | Minister of Whoopass
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09-19-2006, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by lesofprimus For Special Operations??? WTF would u want ur Operators truckin along that big hunk of overkill for??? | Special operations!? I'm not that keen in military as some of you guys are, but I wouldn't equip my special forces with that. I should have added that I would issue the desert eagle to MPs for riot control. For combat operations, use the .45 or a 9mm. | |
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09-19-2006, 01:25 PM
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would issue the desert eagle to MPs for riot control
| Imagine the drop in crime rate and riots we would see if all MPs and Police officers were required to carry a Desert Eagle in plain sight. The rioters or would be crooks would be more concerned about not being on the buisness end of the gun rather than their bad ideas and deeds. | |
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09-19-2006, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MacArther Imagine the drop in crime rate and riots we would see if all MPs and Police officers were required to carry a Desert Eagle in plain sight. The rioters or would be crooks would be more concerned about not being on the buisness end of the gun rather than their bad ideas and deeds. | Yeah, thats like what I had in mind. the standard issued Beretta in my opinion is decent and has a 15/16 round clip, but the stopping power is not as great as a Desert Eagle. With a Desert Eagle the round would do more damage to a crook if he somehow acquired kevlar or was on PCP( though if he would feel it is beyond me).
Also, I have a question about this gun I use playing Counter Strike. It's called a Nighthawk .50 caliber, does such a gun design exist? | |
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09-19-2006, 03:35 PM
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| I'll take my old an trusty Sig Sauer P210 "Neuhausen" as it served me very well in my time. And eventhough it uses the same round as the M9 Beretta, the 9mm parabellum, it is tenfold the gun and packs more than enough punch for the situations in which it was needed.
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09-19-2006, 03:42 PM
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#26 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Talkin personal experience here, if it aint .40 cal or higher, ur gonna have problems...
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09-19-2006, 04:16 PM
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| No problem, I was always a great shot Les  A 9mm shot to his head or the middle of his chest and he drops like a stone unable to hurt you at all. (Also the bullets we used weren't always exactly "std.issue")
Anyway my point is, what good is any pistol in that situation if you can't hit straight ? But I agree, the .40 S&W is a better round, its just my 9mm Neuhausen never failed me
Anyways, an angry tribesman with a machete 20ft away sounds nasty though, how did you end up in such a situation ? 
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09-19-2006, 04:16 PM
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__________________ We have built a total of about 1250 of this aircraft (Me-262), but only fifty were allowed to be used as fighters - as interceptors. And out of this fifty, there were never more than 25 operational. So we had only a very, very few.
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09-19-2006, 04:57 PM
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#29 | | the old Sage
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Country: | actually screw the hand gun for close action in special ops...... give me a double edged blade, one side with saw-teeth. The VC hated us when we adopted the same close knit "quiet" guerilla tactics as we had the size preference, as we "hunted" always in 3's | |
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09-20-2006, 05:40 AM
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#30 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by lesofprimus If u had an enraged tribesman comin at u from 20 feet away with a nasty-*** rusted out machete, u gonna wish to God u had something OTHER than a 9mm cartridge...
Talkin personal experience here, if it aint .40 cal or higher, ur gonna have problems... | Gotta agree with you. Based off my experience I dont like the 9mm atleast the Barettas that we had.
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