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09-17-2006, 09:34 AM
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#1 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | Which side arm?
If you were to start your own military force, along with your own country (that would be the hopeful thing anyway), what side arm would you set for your military forces? I'm going for general side arm, so if you have one secondary sidearm for Spec Ops or the like, that is ok too. These are all pistols, because the PDW and the like would not realistically be lugged around with and assault rifle, its ammo, and the PDW and its ammo. Personally, I would take the "baby Eagle" in .45, or if supplies of that cannot be met, the full sized Desert Eagle in .357, .44, or .50 (I couldn't decide which would be the most effective in the field, vs friendly to opperator). If I was going to have a secondary pistol for Spec Ops and the like, I would choose the Springfield 1911 new production series model.
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09-17-2006, 10:03 AM
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#2 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country: | For Spec Ops, as I am familiar with, I would choose a silenced HK Mark23 .40cal S&W...
Otherwise, in the 9mm catagory, the H&K P9S...
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09-17-2006, 01:15 PM
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#3 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | Im with Les though I am for anything but the Beretta M-9.
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09-17-2006, 01:20 PM
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#4 | | Junior Member
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Country: | I would prefer the browning 9MM, which i have fired! | |
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09-17-2006, 01:33 PM
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#5 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country: | For Spec Ops, I find the 9mm cartridge to be underpowered for CQC...
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09-17-2006, 01:43 PM
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#6 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | I find the 9mm underpowered period. We all hated it over in the Army. I would have prefered some kind of .45. We found the 9mm did not have much of a stopping power.
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09-17-2006, 02:17 PM
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#7 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | I shot 9mm and the ole 45. I did better with the 9 but me thinks the 45 has the stopping power..
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09-17-2006, 02:23 PM
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#8 | | Senior Member
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Country: | I like the M1911 the best.
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09-17-2006, 02:58 PM
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#9 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country: | Which is why I like the .40 cal round... Weapon is lighter than the 1911, fires faster, and with the proper tip, can exert the same stoppage power as a .45...
And in the SOCOM world, a silencer is manditory...
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09-17-2006, 09:43 PM
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#10 | | Senior Member
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Country: | I would prefer the 1911 A1. It works just fine and if it aint broke don't fix it.
Like you said les it's better for CQC. With a 9mm there are only 4 ways to take him down.
1) Head shot
2) Hand
3) Foot
4) Let's just say he won't be having anymore kids.
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09-18-2006, 06:25 AM
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Country: | Desert Eagle .50 caliber, one way to drop an enemy in one round. | |
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09-18-2006, 06:39 AM
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#12 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country: | For Special Operations??? WTF would u want ur Operators truckin along that big hunk of overkill for???
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09-18-2006, 08:57 AM
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#13 | | Senior Member
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Country: | He didn't see the video of the old guy shooting the Desert Eagle at a shooting range did he? Nearly nailed him in the face.
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09-18-2006, 11:34 AM
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#14 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by Chief I would prefer the 1911 A1. It works just fine and if it aint broke don't fix it.
Like you said les it's better for CQC. With a 9mm there are only 4 ways to take him down.
1) Head shot
2) Hand
3) Foot
4) Let's just say he won't be having anymore kids. | Have you ever tried to hit someone in those 4 spots when the **** hits the fan (I am not talking about Spec OPs close quarters here, I am talking on the battle field)?
It ain that easy with a 9mm Baretta (atleast not the ones that we have in the Army which are falling apart pieces of ****). Your best shot is a hit to the chest.
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09-18-2006, 02:27 PM
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#15 | | Master of Ewes
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Country:  | i think he was making comment about the effectiveness of the 9mm round, saying that only hitting them in those places would stop a man..........
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