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07-03-2004, 06:45 AM
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#271 | | Master of Ewes
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Country:  | i thought you thought the XIV was the best??
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07-05-2004, 05:26 AM
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Country: | No I've been reading more and the Mk. XVIII was the best Griffon engined and the Mk.VIII was the best Merlin engined. The Mk.XIV and Mk.XVIII were the best overall. 
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07-05-2004, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by plan_D No I've been reading more and the Mk. XVIII was the best Griffon engined and the Mk.VIII was the best Merlin engined. The Mk.XIV and Mk.XVIII were the best overall. | I'm sorry to say that Plan_D but you're wrong about the Mk. VIII. Every info I have say that the Mk. VIII was surpassed by the Mk. IX. Even if the Mk. IX came out before the Mk. VIII. (That's a long story, but I already talked about it a while back.)
But I agree with you concerning the Mk. XIV and Mk. XVIII. | |
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07-05-2004, 02:09 PM
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Country:  | My vote is the Mk. IX and then the XIV. The Mk. IX just seemed to have most of the bugs worked out and the arms in the Universal wing were pritty good. Question how common was a guns fit of 2x20mm cannon and 2x.50 mg?
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07-05-2004, 04:00 PM
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#275 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | i've never evn heard of that armourment on a spit before.......................
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07-05-2004, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass i've never evn heard of that armourment on a spit before....................... | Me neither. I heard about Spitfires with 8x303, or 2x20mm and 4x303, or 4x20mm (yes, the Mk. IX had a variant with four 20mm cannons). But I never heard of a Spitfire armed with .50 cal. | |
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07-06-2004, 02:04 PM
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Country: | ok thanks all. I am trying to understand why they would not have replace some of the .303s with the .50? Or was it because of the thin wing? Again sorry, if I find any refferance to it I will let you all know.
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07-06-2004, 03:26 PM
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| MK. IX's had two Hispanos and two Browning MG's. | |
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07-06-2004, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by GermansRGeniuses MK. IX's had two Hispanos and two Browning MG's. | I don't realy understand your post, GRG... Are you saying that the Mk. IX had a variant with 2x20mm and 2x.50cal ?
Or are you saying that it had 2x20mm and 2x303 ? (In this case you're wrong, it had 2x20mm and 4x303.) | |
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07-06-2004, 11:52 PM
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| Several different marks of Spit could carry the E wing with 2 .50cals and 2 20mm but I don't think the fit was that common. And the ammo load probably wasn't extremely impressive either.
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07-07-2004, 01:15 PM
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#281 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | the spit's wing was a bit thin for .50 ammo....................
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07-07-2004, 03:37 PM
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| I want to say I have seen the figure of 250rpg somewhere but I'm not positive about that.
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07-08-2004, 11:15 AM
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Country: | Thanks one of the chalenges of reading about the Spitfire, and for that matter it seams a good bit of RAF fighters is the different wing types that could hold different arms. I am always learning. Were the .303 rounds effective? The rifle round seems light against fighters and armor?
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07-09-2004, 06:18 AM
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Country: | The Spitfire Mk. IX was a mere stop gap, it was just a Mk. V with a new Merlin 61 engine. The Mk. VIII was the definitive Fighter and the E wing carried two 20mm and two .50cal.
The only reason the IX seems to be seen as better is because of its larger production run, which continued until 1945. It wasn't better. Some pilots say the VIII was the best overall.
'A' Wing eight .30 cal.
'B' Wing two 20mm and four .30cal
'C' Wing four 20mm.
'E' Wing two 20mm and two .50cal.
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07-09-2004, 01:50 PM
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#285 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | you really need to make up your mind as to which spit you think was the best..................
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