Which side would you fly for?.......

[Crazy]

Originally Posted by bronzewhaler82

Er...ok

[plan_D]

American pilots? I'm sorry I forgot that the 7 Americans in the Battle of Britain saved Britain from certain destruction by the Luftwaffe. Maybe I got it all wrong, the R.A.F were poor only due to America were they made to look good...

[kiwimac]

Ach zo Crazy, I der Fuhrer von Spam vill get you before you get ze chickens!

FVS Kiwimac

[cheddar cheese]

Currently I'd like to fly for the RAF. Cool planes (except that damnable Lancaster) It would be an exotic experience for me. Defending the homeland by fighting off wave after wave of German planes in the Battle of Britain, advancing boldly into France over the brave British troops in D-Day, advancing menacingly into Southern Germany, cursing High Command for ordering us to stop just short of Berlin, ignoring orders and attacking a fuel depot with my spitfire in central Berlin, only to have my engine shot through and catch fire, crash-landing in front of Hitler's secret bunker, but smelling roast chicken nearby and forgetting der Fuhrer entirely, I fight through hordes of SS soldiers to reach a messhouse, where i confiscate all the chicken from a terrified cook, and make my way to a nearby airbase, where I hotwire and hijack a Ta-152 and fly back to my airfield. I'm celebrated as a hero in Britain for stealing the Fuhrer's own chicken, one of the most highly sought-after prizes of the war. Now knighted Sir Crazy, I travel the world with my companion, an illustrious writer by the name of 'Asparagus' Robert Whitney the XXXVII.

bit over the top crzy funny though, would make a good film

[Gemhorse]

Yeah , Mosquito Nightfighter/Intruder for me , but there were many facets of the Airwar that fascinate me , on both the Allied & Axis sides...but also both the major Allies had aircraft and duties that I like. - It's hard to say they were a ' Lucky ' generation , but what a 'Battle-Royal' it was , at an age of Technology that accelerated from a desperation almost , to keep constantly coming-up with new stuff to out-perform the enemy. - I think a chap like Capt. Eric [Winkle] Brown had an awesome War , from start till after it was over ; first fighting with the Fleet Air Arm , then Test Pilot flying captured enemy aircraft from Jan. 1944 onwards...he got to try-out the bloody lot ! - IMHO the idea of other Axis-country participants would be really good for the Site. I find it hard to support anything but Allied, but some German aircraft were bloody good; - Fw190, Ju88, Ar234, come to mind as ones I favour. AND I can dig where Crazy's comin' from...

[bronzewhaler82]

Originally Posted by MP-Willow

As for the RAF yes they were great fliers, but only because they had American steel, pilots, and production to back them up. And Hitler got it into his head to bomb London flat rather then finish of the RAF Properly before the great Invasion

I know what you're thinking....are the Brits going to retaliate with a full-frontal bombardment of 'you're talking crap' or are we going to ignore your absurd remark for the utter tosh that it so obviously is....to be honest i can't decide myself in all this excitement...but bearing in mind that this site is packed full of Brits who are highly informed and very verbal and blunt when it comes to defending our homelands vast, proud history...you have to ask yourself a question....'Do I feel lucky?'...well do ya PUNK?!?!

[MP-Willow]

As for feeling Lucky Yes! That is an American Film Icon that takes no crap and loves to dish it out!! But to be real I do understand that this site has lots of Brits and I respect the passion of defending the homeland. But (here it comes all) If the Americans did not start sending you aid how long would the British been able to keep it all up? As for the pilot remark it was not for the battle of Britten as much as the Eagle squadrens that were the Yank volunteers who got some great battle skills and were able to help you all out.

So now you know where I am comming from. If you all still think I am full of crap and totally missimformed then you have that right. Our crazzy Duchman president (FDR) could have staid out of it all together, but for the Japs! Think on that!!

These nationalistic arguments are stupid. We don't engage in them at IL2skins!

[GermansRGeniuses]

1. GREAT SIGGY plan_D!!!
2. i would fly for das reich und fuhrer but if i had to go with allied, id go with the plane you are all forgetting!!!! THE BEAUFIGHTER!!! id attack shipping like a maniac!! and sink those kraut ships with no remorse! (see how neutral i can be? although i am rather partial to defending Europa since i am, after all, part Aryan (yes bitches, i am!) but beaus are tempting!!

[bronzewhaler82]

Originally Posted by MP-Willow

As for feeling Lucky Yes! That is an American Film Icon that takes no crap and loves to dish it out!! But to be real I do understand that this site has lots of Brits and I respect the passion of defending the homeland. But (here it comes all) If the Americans did not start sending you aid how long would the British been able to keep it all up? As for the pilot remark it was not for the battle of Britten as much as the Eagle squadrens that were the Yank volunteers who got some great battle skills and were able to help you all out.

So now you know where I am comming from. If you all still think I am full of crap and totally missimformed then you have that right. Our crazzy Duchman president (FDR) could have staid out of it all together, but for the Japs! Think on that!!

Ok - fair points...but i can't help but get the impression that you're trying (in typical American fashion) to steal the British 'thunder' as it were So i'm afraid i have no choice but to 're-educate' you

The Battle of Britain was (in my humble opinion) a truly defining moment in Modern British History, there has never been a repeat performance (thankgod) when we as an entire nation had joined together to defeat a monsterous enemy that some believed couldn't be stopped

"The RAF saved Great Britain" - they should have that engraved in stone and placed all over the country to remind people of what they achived...it was the skill of the pilots and the truly amazing aircraft they flew that saved us from the Nazis...as for outside help it is indeed true that we had some pilots from abroad- France, Belgium, Poland, US, Czech etc etc (sorry if i missed any out ) but they were in a vast minority compared to the British pilots and the majority of them (especially the pilots from the US) were killed very early on in the Battle and although i wouldn't dream of pissing on what the foreign pilots did for us it has to be said that the British did more of the fighting than any other nation during the Battle of Britain (except of course the Germans )

As for American aid - yes we recieved equipment and supplies from the Yanks and yes without them times would've been a damn-sight more difficult (perhaps nearly impossible who knows? )
but i firmly beleive in answer to your question

"How long would the British have been able to keep it all up...?"

Until every last one of us was dead...you can believe that - Britain would rather die on its feet than its knees...as Winston Churchill once said

"We shall defend our island whatever the cost may be; we shall fight on beaches, landing grounds, in fields, in streets and on the hills. We shall never surrender"

and you can bet your life he meant every word of it...a truly great man

America could've stayed out of that war and to be quite frank it bloody well would've if it wasn't for the Japanese and I have NEVER beleived that without America we would've lost the war...I don't care if 1000 people tell me otherwise - i'll never believe it - America did little during the war to earn my respect and to be honest (no offence to you as i'm sure you're a nice chap - if a little mis-informed ) America didn't (and still doesn't) give a flying **** what the rest of the world does as long as it doesn't bother them...as soon as it does America will flex its mighty muscles and charge headlong into war again killing anything that moves (friendly fire my arse )

In short (in case the point was lost amidst my ranting) Britain and the RAF won the Battle of Britain and for anyone to say otherwise (especially if they say America won it for us) is in for a very rude shock...because they couldn't be more wrong if they tried

RULE BRITTANIA

[MP-Willow]

Bronze, that was very nice, and well said. i am sorry to have people think that as a Yank I would try to disrepect the fire and Pride of the British people or the RAF. Please remember that I have been educated in a system that is overy jaded and controled to push America and even to stress history to be very strong armed about it. You are right that the American government dose not care about the feelings of other nations and will when it so chooses reach out and take or try to, what it wants.

I started reading and writing on this site because I was interested in the RAF bomber comand and the Halifax, that is unharelded in American history and overshadowed by the Lanc. mach as the B-24 (A truely misunderstood craft!) was over shadowed by the B-17. I wanted to know, and still do, more about other nations involvment in the war.

You say that Britania would be defended to the last man, woman, and child. That sounds very similar to the reports I have read of the Japanese preparing for the home Island invasion. I do have one question for you and would like your opinion on it, that of the way that the american people changed from staying out of the war to moving all the production of a nation to war needs? Also, with the British production taking a lot of hits how much was produced in Canada?

I have truely liked reading your letter and for helping to re-educate me. Please I hope we can continue this discussion of the war and its great aircraft.

Bronzewhaler, you post venom like that and you are a *moderator* here? Your ideas are fine but your hatred overwhelms them.

Sorry, Crazy, tried out your site but I can see that there's nothing for me here.

[kiwimac]

Vigilante,

Bronze's comments, while perhaps a little strongly put, are (unfortunately) accurate. The UK & the Commonwealth made no bones about what they would do to survive, the US was during the early years of the war, at most, a concerned by-stander until Pearl Harbour.

I don't, for a moment, think that BW "hates" Americans, after all thats MY JOB, and we're very big on demarckation here at ww2aircraft.net

Lighten up, stick up for your country and, unless he's being a moderator, IGNORE BROZEWHALER, we all do!

Kiwimac

[brad]

Originally Posted by Rafe35

I would fly for the Allies which of US Marines Corp and flying a F4U-1D or early model F4U-4

well dugh your from the us

[brad]

Originally Posted by GermansRGeniuses

1. GREAT SIGGY plan_D!!!
2. i would fly for das reich und fuhrer but if i had to go with allied, id go with the plane you are all forgetting!!!! THE BEAUFIGHTER!!! id attack shipping like a maniac!! and sink those kraut ships with no remorse! (see how neutral i can be? although i am rather partial to defending Europa since i am, after all, part Aryan (yes bitches, i am!) but beaus are tempting!!

yes you would fly for the germans but you said you would fly the beaufighter but you put up a picture of a messerschmitt where is the sense in that