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08-13-2004, 11:48 PM
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| Read the history of the Soviet Union lately?
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08-14-2004, 05:44 AM
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#302 | | Master of Ewes
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08-14-2004, 06:00 AM
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| I realise the Soviets were far from perfect.
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08-14-2004, 07:37 AM
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Although the Communists did some horiffic things in WW2, the Germans have em beat hands down in the atrocities department...
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08-14-2004, 12:36 PM
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| I agree, you cant get much worse than the Holocaust and if you could I wouldn't like to know.
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08-14-2004, 02:17 PM
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| Well, some of the things the Japanese did were pretty horrific. But I would not have wanted to have been a German lady in Berlin in May of 1945. The Soviet soldiers raped just about every German female they could lay their hands on. As a result of the abuse, countless women were killed.
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08-14-2004, 02:17 PM
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| And of course Stalin's purges outdid Hitler's holocaust by about a 3 to 1 margin.
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08-14-2004, 03:37 PM
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#308 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | but many of the russian atrosities were against "combatants" the holocaust was against "non-combatants" which makes it worse............
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08-14-2004, 11:12 PM
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| I'm not disputing that. But if your reason for flying for the Allies (which included the Soviet Union) is because they were more humane . . . you might wanna take a long look at some of the things the Soviets did. Even if they were targetting combatants they were still detestable.
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08-14-2004, 11:46 PM
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| Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, yes indeed....
I'd still fly German, the Luftwaffe had nothing to do with Hitler's "Ethnic Cleansing," so it's guilt-free.
That and the fact that, contrary to popular belief, the Holocaust was VERY secret, the Western Front knew almost nothing about it during it's peak of horror, which was approximately 1942-1943.
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08-15-2004, 07:44 AM
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#311 | | Master of Ewes
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08-15-2004, 03:52 PM
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Country: | GrG, the west knew of what was going on in the camps. They were on the way to the nice juicey bits of barring plants and other phat targets.
Pilots in all wars have had more or less guilt free fighting. I beleive that most of the German Army and Airforce were professionals. It was the SS that was bad. 
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08-15-2004, 04:40 PM
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| Actually, I meant about the atrocities...
Auschwitz is kinda big not to notice from the air... | |
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08-15-2004, 05:11 PM
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| I dont know but lancaster is a communist supporter by the looks of it I mean come on the soviets were less orthodox in the means of tactics and warfare and in treating prisoners. I mean one of the reasons the russians werent prepared for Operation "Barbarossa" was cus Stalin killed of his own generals, leaders like that dont deserve to win a war....
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08-16-2004, 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by MP-Willow GrG, the west knew of what was going on in the camps. They were on the way to the nice juicey bits of barring plants and other phat targets.
Pilots in all wars have had more or less guilt free fighting. I beleive that most of the German Army and Airforce were professionals. It was the SS that was bad. | ... And the SS were in charge of every camp within the Rieich. | |
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