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06-17-2004, 10:24 AM
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#136 | | the old Sage
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Country:  | thank you for the information. I was thinking after my posting-first- on the B-25 of only US led a/c, but I see I was not at all clear as RAF a/c units were quite involved before and during D-day.....
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06-17-2004, 01:44 PM
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| Unkated, there were disadvantages to flying over all that land in Europe as well. You were constantly over enemy territory meaning more flak, more fighters, and lesser chance of escape if shot down. But as you said, none of the things you listed include aircraft, missions, weather, etc. I think the firsts two play a key part in deciding where you would have wanted to be . . . not that you had much of a choice back then.
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06-18-2004, 01:48 PM
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Country: | Choice!! You go where you are told. I think the ETO was good but all that frills of a London pub in my mind make the war seam less real. You are almost out of the war ater the mission. Now the PTO you were always in the war, and had time to raly after a mission and fly home in safe air.
Unkated-Nice to hear from you! But the PTO would have been one hell of a ride! On e place we have not said much of is China and the AVG! 
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06-20-2004, 06:49 AM
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#139 | | Master of Ewes
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and lesser chance of escape if shot down
| did you know that Adjutant of J.G.3 "Udet" Franz Von Werra was the only german officer to escape from Britian and return to germany during WWII. He was shot down in kent on september 5th 1940 whilst flying a Bf. 109E-4......................
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06-21-2004, 04:20 AM
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06-21-2004, 03:01 PM
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#141 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | i don't know, it didn't say, it's pretty amazing that only one man made it out though..................
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06-21-2004, 10:33 PM
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| Well, there weren't as many people in England willing to help Germans escape as there were in France trying to help the Allied pilots escape.
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06-22-2004, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by MP-Willow Ev0, nice to have you on. now why would you like the aircraft? |
What did you mean? "like the aircraft?" I assume that you wonder why I would like those aircrafts? Because the p-47 for example had a big circulation of jobs and it could take biiig amounts of damage.
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06-22-2004, 10:50 AM
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Country: | He probably stole a fishing boat or something. He might have got over to Ireland and got picked up in the Republic somewhere and taken home.
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06-22-2004, 11:38 AM
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| I would thinking getting over to Ireland would have been even tougher. Maybe a U-Boat could have made it over there to get him, but how would he contact it? The fishing boat across the channel seems like a better option to me. It wouldn't have been easy, but probably the most likely means of escape.
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06-22-2004, 12:41 PM
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#146 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | he proberly stood a better chance of servival staying england, anything could have happened on the crossing..............
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06-22-2004, 06:02 PM
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Country: | But he got out! But still ony one of how meny pilot that were lost in that campain. I think the war would have been a lot different if the German pilots would have been able to get back to their units.
EvO- I just wated to know why you liked the aircraft you named. 
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06-22-2004, 10:57 PM
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| Getting alot of pilots who had been shot down back into action was a major advantage for the RAF. Just look at the indestructible Alan Deere.
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06-23-2004, 11:47 AM
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| ok ^^ Too bad that the p-47 did not have 4/6 20 mm cannons :/
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06-23-2004, 12:47 PM
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| The P-47 did very well with it's 8 .50cals. That was more than enough fire power for air-to-air and with as many as 3 500lb bombs and 10 HVARs it really didn't need the cannon for ground attack.
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