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06-28-2004, 02:45 PM
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Country:  | LG- to be shot down over open ocean and drift with the sharks! Or if you were to be taken on land to go biuld bridges fot the railroad where each day you ask to die rather then to be treated like an animal!
But the wide blue ocean would be better then all that AA stuff, not that the Pacific had its share. I would ay makig your torpeado run would have been very scarry. 
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06-28-2004, 04:27 PM
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#182 | | Master of Ewes
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Country:  | they still had flack out there, the only differance was that it was coming up from ships................................
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06-28-2004, 11:59 PM
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| Well, the Japanese AA on ships wasn't terribly effective. Their heavy weapons were ok and the 3.9in gun they were deploying late in the war was very good. However, the lacked any adequate medium or light weapons and their 25mm and 13.2mm weapons were totally outclassed by the 40mm Bofors and the 20mm Oerlikon. In short, I would rather face Japanese flak than German flak but the Germans were definitely more humane in their treatment of POWs (excluding the Russians) than the Japanese.
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06-29-2004, 01:50 PM
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Country: | But to be a German shot down and sent to the States where they were treated better then the Black soldiers, that must have been a big change. There was a POW camp near my home town, that I want to try and find more info on. 
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06-29-2004, 02:05 PM
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| There is a pretty powerful scene in the Tuskegee Airmen movie where the black fighter pilots are forced to give up their seats on the train for German POWs.
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06-29-2004, 02:59 PM
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#186 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | that problem wasn't really sorted 'til the 60's was it??
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06-30-2004, 12:01 AM
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| It came to a huge head in the 60s. It is still somewhat an issue today, or at least some people try to make it one.
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06-30-2004, 04:31 AM
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06-30-2004, 02:06 PM
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#189 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | we take it to a new level over here, have you heard of the British National Party??
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06-30-2004, 02:09 PM
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Country: | LG -we are still feeling the effects of it and what the country went through. I forgot about that part of the airman movie. Also though there is a nice bit when the two bomber pilots are stranded at there base. but for them the testient was no bomber lost to eemy fighters and that was done mostly with older planes. They did not get P-51s until latter.
It is a testiment to the fighting men of the all black and the Japanese American Units that they were some of the highest decorated units in the war. Patton personly requested the 92nd (I think that is right) Tank unit, because they were good! 
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06-30-2004, 04:58 PM
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Country: | If Welsh guards performed in World War 2 like they did in the Falklands, I wouldn't like to comment. And I know how the Irish Guards performed.
Have you got a problem with the BNP, Lanc? This is a democracy, after all.
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07-01-2004, 01:24 PM
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#193 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | yes i'm just saying that there are members of the party that wouldn't exactily jump in to stop you beating up a black man or a forigner....................
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07-01-2004, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass yes i'm just saying that there are members of the party that wouldn't exactily jump in to stop you beating up a black man or a forigner.................... | Excuse my ignorance, but is the BNP a true political party or is it only like the Ku Klux Klan ?
Because if it's a true political party, as a French-Canadian (so a foreigner for you), I'll never go in England if they get elected ! (I'm not afraid to fight once in a while, but I'm not mad enough to look for it.) | |
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