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Soren · 10-02-2007, 02:31 PM

Don't tell me it was necessary TO, dropping the A-bombs on some of the large military bases would've more than made the point - The destructive power of the A-bomb and the after effects would've been clearly visible as-well.

The only reason the US choose to drop the two bombs on Hiroshima & Nagasaki was that the US was pissed at Japan and wanted to give it a real ass kicking. Stop thinking the Allies acted non other than as angels through the entire war, its far from reality.

War is terrible, thats a fact.

Soren · 10-02-2007, 02:37 PM

Now if we want to discuss the OT subjects any further then please some moderator make a thread for this specifically.

ToughOmbre · 10-02-2007, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Soren

The only reason the US choose to drop the two bombs on Hiroshima & Nagasaki was that the US was pissed at Japan and wanted to give it a real ass kicking.

Soren, the fire bombing of Tokyo March 9-10, 1945, killed as many or more Japanese than the atomic raids. So don't tell me about "pissed" and "ass kicking" with regard to the nukes.

I don't give two S**ts about the number of Japanese killed in WW II. For me, the issue was saving AMERICAN lives, and that's what the Atomic raids did. And for a guy like yourself, who idolizes the Waffen SS, it's time to shut up

TO

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 10-02-2007, 02:43 PM

Allright everyone I think it is time to get back on topic here.

ToughOmbre · 10-02-2007, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet

Allright everyone I think it is time to get back on topic here.

I knew you were gonna say that, and rightfully so.

TO

Soren · 10-02-2007, 02:57 PM

What ?!

I've never idiolized the Waffen SS ! And I've certainly never expressed myself any way where that could've been implied ! I despise what the Nazi's did to the Jews and I will always do so and have always done so, and AFAIK I've always made that very clear. But unlike you TO I look objectively at things, and I unlike you have long realised that the Germans weren't the only ones carrying out crimes during WW2.

So please spare us all the idiotic last comments of your post, it has no place here.

As to the people killed by the A-bombs, well approx. 200,000 died, thats abit more than the 85 -100,000 who died during the firebombing of Tokyo, which btw was the worst & most devastating firebombing in history.

Soren · 10-02-2007, 03:05 PM

A number of notable individuals and organizations have criticized the bombings, many of them characterizing them as war crimes or crime against humanity and or state terrorism. Two early critics of the bombings were Albert Einstein and Leo Szilard, who had together spurred the first bomb research in 1939 with a jointly written letter to President Roosevelt. Szilard, who had gone on to play a major role in the Manhattan Project, argued:

"Let me say only this much to the moral issue involved: Suppose Germany had developed two bombs before we had any bombs. And suppose Germany had dropped one bomb, say, on Rochester and the other on Buffalo, and then having run out of bombs she would have lost the war. Can anyone doubt that we would then have defined the dropping of atomic bombs on cities as a war crime, and that we would have sentenced the Germans who were guilty of this crime to death at Nuremberg and hanged them?"

ToughOmbre · 10-02-2007, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Soren

I unlike you have long realised that the Germans weren't the only ones carrying out crimes during WW2.

Compared to who? The Japanese? That quote says it all Soren.

Like Adler said, let's stay on topic.

TO

Soren · 10-02-2007, 03:10 PM

No it doesn't TO, all it says is that you're a very ignorant person who likes to spew out blanket & completely unjust accusations.

Marcel · 10-02-2007, 03:14 PM

Topic, anyone ??

ToughOmbre · 10-02-2007, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Soren

No it doesn't TO, all it says is that you're a very ignorant person who likes to spew out blanket & completely unjust accusations.

To Adler, and any other moderator/administrator of the forum, I apologise in advance for being off-topic one more time in this particular thread.

Soren, I take comfort in the fact that that my father killed lots of German soldiers, especially Waffen SS soldiers, in the ETO. I like to think that he helped contribute to VE-Day. And after he, and his fellow riflemen, became aware of the Malmedy Massacre, they took no SS prisoners at the "Bulge". They treated them like the dogs they were.

I'm done with you.

TO

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 10-02-2007, 03:25 PM

5,4,3,2,1....

On topic or the thread closes.

Soren · 10-02-2007, 03:30 PM

No need to close it, just move the OT stuff elsewhere - simple.

Soren · 10-02-2007, 03:41 PM

Soren, I take comfort in the fact that that my father killed lots of German soldiers

Just reading that along with the other things you have written gives me the impression you're no better than the SS yourself. You put American lives over Japanese ones as if American lives are worth more, and you take comfort in the fact that you grandfather killed lots of Germans (I bet he disagree's with you), which sounds VERY nationalistic, ignorant, arrogant and downright distasteful in my ears.

From what I gather your posts TO are no'more than a young persons rants.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 10-02-2007, 03:44 PM

Closed