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09-25-2007, 04:00 PM
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| The ultimate warrior of all time
WAR !, an all out conflict, one which has raged on this planet since the dawn of man, and through the centuries it has given birth to some truly outstanding warriors.
The question is however, who deserves the title The Ultimate Warrior Of All Time ? Who was the toughest, most disciplined, most skilled & best equipped warrior of all time ?
What should the contenders be ? I can start out with two.. The Spartan Warrior  The Roman Legionaire 
__________________  We have built a total of about 1250 of this aircraft (Me-262), but only fifty were allowed to be used as fighters - as interceptors. And out of this fifty, there were never more than 25 operational. So we had only a very, very few.
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09-25-2007, 04:53 PM
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The citizen soldiers of the USA who have defended America for 231 years.
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09-25-2007, 05:09 PM
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Country: | Those ten men teams of the B-17 always make great pictures.
Here's some other warriors.
The Knights of the First Crusade. The went through one of the toughest campaigns in history, and many couldn't survive it, but the most enduring left alive still took Jerusalem, and then defeated the Egyptians just a few weeks later. 
Napoleon's Old Guard. 
And to not make the British feel left out, the British Gunners at Trafalgar. 
Green Beret, one of many US Army groups. 
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09-25-2007, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Soundbreaker Welch?  Those ten men teams of the B-17 always make great pictures.
Here's some other warriors.
The Knights of the First Crusade. The went through one of the toughest campaigns in history, and many couldn't survive it, but the most enduring left alive still took Jerusalem, and then defeated the Egyptians just a few weeks later. | Not only that, the Crusaders (which is actually a fairly modern term; back then they called themselves Pilgrims) had to fight in the desert, for the most part, in full armor in 100+ degree heat. I think most of us would've keeled over if we tried to do that. And, as you said, they not only took Jerusalem (and Acre and Tripoli and Antioch), but held it for almost 100 years. | |
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09-25-2007, 06:47 PM
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| In terms of 20th century soldiers it is IMO the battle-hardened German soldier of WW2, having seen both service in Russia, Afrika, and on the Western front, which is the toughest, most discplined (For sure), most skilled & generally better equipped of his time. But since 20th century soldiers weren't subject to as brutal or barbaric forms of warfare as occurred in ancient times they IMO fall abit short in terms of toughness & disciplin by comparison, however while this has been said war in the 20th century was very brutal as-well, most wars are.
The point however is that war before the widespread adoption & standardization of guns was a very up close and dirty business, and also one which was more physically demanding. (SoD Stitch's point about the circumstances under which the crusaders often had to fight being a good example of this)
The Crusader is a good choice, but there was a special member which fought more fiercely than anyone in the crusade, the Knights Templar & Hospitaller. And while were talking the medieval ages the Teutonic Knight needs to be mentioned as-well, a very fierce, disciplined, skilled & very well equipped soldier. 
__________________ We have built a total of about 1250 of this aircraft (Me-262), but only fifty were allowed to be used as fighters - as interceptors. And out of this fifty, there were never more than 25 operational. So we had only a very, very few.
- Adolf Galland
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09-25-2007, 07:07 PM
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Country:  | What about the Vikings ? They almost invented war, dammit.  | |
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09-25-2007, 07:30 PM
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The 'evil' Daleks.  | |
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09-25-2007, 08:09 PM
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| The Vikings is a great choice !
__________________ We have built a total of about 1250 of this aircraft (Me-262), but only fifty were allowed to be used as fighters - as interceptors. And out of this fifty, there were never more than 25 operational. So we had only a very, very few.
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09-25-2007, 09:20 PM
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Country: | Soren - I love that image of the Teutonic Knights charging. Had it up as my wallpaper for some time.
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Country: | Ghurkas would be high on the list.
The Vietcong, very mobile, cagy and quick to improvise. They were never fully defeated by 2 vastly superior armies.
Native American warriors who taught us Yanks many things about guerilla warfare. Brave, quick and highly mobile. Their only downfall was having a liberal immigration policy...
Special Operations forces of most countries are all pretty bad-ass with the US Navy SEALs, USAF PJs, British SAS and Israelis to name a few. (I know there are many more).
And no, Rambo is not on the list.
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09-26-2007, 01:58 AM
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Country:  | The Templar Knights are a good choice and the article on wikipedia tells much about their contribution to many battles... Knights Templar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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09-26-2007, 05:54 AM
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Country: | How about the Stormtrooper? 
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"His motor's conked out!"
"What's the differance, they're all Nazis!"
"Luke, shut up!"
"Fear the hook!"
"Oh.....I wanna fly."
"You mean the kind that go under water and fly up the stairs?"
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09-26-2007, 06:30 AM
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| Please guys take this seriously, jokes are always welcome but they need to b good ! 
mkloby,
Yes its a great painting, here it is in a bigger size (Where did you get the wallpaper version ?): 
__________________ We have built a total of about 1250 of this aircraft (Me-262), but only fifty were allowed to be used as fighters - as interceptors. And out of this fifty, there were never more than 25 operational. So we had only a very, very few.
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09-26-2007, 06:37 AM
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Conquered the world. | |
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09-26-2007, 06:50 AM
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This is a tough call. | |
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