The ultimate warrior of all time - Aircraft of World War II

Soren · 09-25-2007, 06:00 PM

WAR !, an all out conflict, one which has raged on this planet since the dawn of man, and through the centuries it has given birth to some truly outstanding warriors.

The question is however, who deserves the title The Ultimate Warrior Of All Time ? Who was the toughest, most disciplined, most skilled & best equipped warrior of all time ?

What should the contenders be ? I can start out with two..

The Spartan Warrior

The Roman Legionaire

ToughOmbre · 09-25-2007, 06:53 PM

Lot's of contenders, but for me there is no doubt....

The citizen soldiers of the USA who have defended America for 231 years.

TO

Soundbreaker Welch? · 09-25-2007, 07:09 PM

Those ten men teams of the B-17 always make great pictures.

Here's some other warriors.

The Knights of the First Crusade. The went through one of the toughest campaigns in history, and many couldn't survive it, but the most enduring left alive still took Jerusalem, and then defeated the Egyptians just a few weeks later.

Napoleon's Old Guard.

And to not make the British feel left out, the British Gunners at Trafalgar.

Green Beret, one of many US Army groups.

SoD Stitch · 09-25-2007, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soundbreaker Welch?

Those ten men teams of the B-17 always make great pictures.

Here's some other warriors.

The Knights of the First Crusade. The went through one of the toughest campaigns in history, and many couldn't survive it, but the most enduring left alive still took Jerusalem, and then defeated the Egyptians just a few weeks later.

Not only that, the Crusaders (which is actually a fairly modern term; back then they called themselves Pilgrims) had to fight in the desert, for the most part, in full armor in 100+ degree heat. I think most of us would've keeled over if we tried to do that. And, as you said, they not only took Jerusalem (and Acre and Tripoli and Antioch), but held it for almost 100 years.

Soren · 09-25-2007, 08:47 PM

In terms of 20th century soldiers it is IMO the battle-hardened German soldier of WW2, having seen both service in Russia, Afrika, and on the Western front, which is the toughest, most discplined (For sure), most skilled & generally better equipped of his time. But since 20th century soldiers weren't subject to as brutal or barbaric forms of warfare as occurred in ancient times they IMO fall abit short in terms of toughness & disciplin by comparison, however while this has been said war in the 20th century was very brutal as-well, most wars are.

The point however is that war before the widespread adoption & standardization of guns was a very up close and dirty business, and also one which was more physically demanding. (SoD Stitch's point about the circumstances under which the crusaders often had to fight being a good example of this)

The Crusader is a good choice, but there was a special member which fought more fiercely than anyone in the crusade, the Knights Templar & Hospitaller. And while were talking the medieval ages the Teutonic Knight needs to be mentioned as-well, a very fierce, disciplined, skilled & very well equipped soldier.

Maestro · 09-25-2007, 09:07 PM

What about the Vikings ? They almost invented war, dammit.

Graeme · 09-25-2007, 09:30 PM

Alien Warriors.
The 'evil' Daleks.

Soren · 09-25-2007, 10:09 PM

The Vikings is a great choice !

mkloby · 09-25-2007, 11:20 PM

Soren - I love that image of the Teutonic Knights charging. Had it up as my wallpaper for some time.

evangilder · 09-26-2007, 12:01 AM

Ghurkas would be high on the list.

The Vietcong, very mobile, cagy and quick to improvise. They were never fully defeated by 2 vastly superior armies.

Native American warriors who taught us Yanks many things about guerilla warfare. Brave, quick and highly mobile. Their only downfall was having a liberal immigration policy...

Special Operations forces of most countries are all pretty bad-ass with the US Navy SEALs, USAF PJs, British SAS and Israelis to name a few. (I know there are many more).

And no, Rambo is not on the list.

Konigstiger205 · 09-26-2007, 03:58 AM

The Templar Knights are a good choice and the article on wikipedia tells much about their contribution to many battles...Knights Templar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Soundbreaker Welch? · 09-26-2007, 07:54 AM

How about the Stormtrooper?

Soren · 09-26-2007, 08:30 AM

Please guys take this seriously, jokes are always welcome but they need to b good !

mkloby,

Yes its a great painting, here it is in a bigger size (Where did you get the wallpaper version ?):

The Basket · 09-26-2007, 08:37 AM

Alexander TG.

Conquered the world.

Thorlifter · 09-26-2007, 08:50 AM

How about Genghis Kahn's Mongolian hordes?

This is a tough call.

09-25-2007, 06:00 PM	#1
Soren Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 6,113	The ultimate warrior of all time WAR !, an all out conflict, one which has raged on this planet since the dawn of man, and through the centuries it has given birth to some truly outstanding warriors. The question is however, who deserves the title The Ultimate Warrior Of All Time ? Who was the toughest, most disciplined, most skilled & best equipped warrior of all time ? What should the contenders be ? I can start out with two.. The Spartan Warrior The Roman Legionaire __________________ It was like being pushed by an Angel! - Adolf Galland I'm an educated engineer, so I love being technical and appraising of great inventions. So if you think I am being biased about something: Tell me! Then you'll probably find out that I am not Last edited by Soren; 09-25-2007 at 06:18 PM.

09-25-2007, 07:09 PM	#3
Soundbreaker Welch? Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 1,893	Those ten men teams of the B-17 always make great pictures. Here's some other warriors. The Knights of the First Crusade. The went through one of the toughest campaigns in history, and many couldn't survive it, but the most enduring left alive still took Jerusalem, and then defeated the Egyptians just a few weeks later. Napoleon's Old Guard. And to not make the British feel left out, the British Gunners at Trafalgar. Green Beret, one of many US Army groups. __________________ "His motor's conked out!" "What's the differance, they're all Nazis!" "Luke, shut up!" "Fear the hook!" "Oh.....I wanna fly." "You mean the kind that go under water and fly up the stairs?" "What you doing? Oh Nooooo!" Last edited by Soundbreaker Welch?; 09-25-2007 at 07:36 PM.

09-25-2007, 08:47 PM	#5
Soren Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 6,113	In terms of 20th century soldiers it is IMO the battle-hardened German soldier of WW2, having seen both service in Russia, Afrika, and on the Western front, which is the toughest, most discplined (For sure), most skilled & generally better equipped of his time. But since 20th century soldiers weren't subject to as brutal or barbaric forms of warfare as occurred in ancient times they IMO fall abit short in terms of toughness & disciplin by comparison, however while this has been said war in the 20th century was very brutal as-well, most wars are. The point however is that war before the widespread adoption & standardization of guns was a very up close and dirty business, and also one which was more physically demanding. (SoD Stitch's point about the circumstances under which the crusaders often had to fight being a good example of this) The Crusader is a good choice, but there was a special member which fought more fiercely than anyone in the crusade, the Knights Templar & Hospitaller. And while were talking the medieval ages the Teutonic Knight needs to be mentioned as-well, a very fierce, disciplined, skilled & very well equipped soldier. __________________ It was like being pushed by an Angel! - Adolf Galland I'm an educated engineer, so I love being technical and appraising of great inventions. So if you think I am being biased about something: Tell me! Then you'll probably find out that I am not Last edited by Soren; 09-25-2007 at 08:58 PM.

09-25-2007, 10:09 PM	#8
Soren Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 6,113	The Vikings is a great choice ! __________________ It was like being pushed by an Angel! - Adolf Galland I'm an educated engineer, so I love being technical and appraising of great inventions. So if you think I am being biased about something: Tell me! Then you'll probably find out that I am not

09-25-2007, 11:20 PM	#9
mkloby Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Jacksonville, NC Posts: 3,562	Soren - I love that image of the Teutonic Knights charging. Had it up as my wallpaper for some time. __________________ If the Army and the Navy ever look on heaven's scenes, they will find the streets are guarded by United States Marines

09-25-2007, 09:30 PM	#7
Graeme Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,081	Alien Warriors. The 'evil' Daleks.

09-26-2007, 12:01 AM	#10
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 14,809	Ghurkas would be high on the list. The Vietcong, very mobile, cagy and quick to improvise. They were never fully defeated by 2 vastly superior armies. Native American warriors who taught us Yanks many things about guerilla warfare. Brave, quick and highly mobile. Their only downfall was having a liberal immigration policy... Special Operations forces of most countries are all pretty bad-ass with the US Navy SEALs, USAF PJs, British SAS and Israelis to name a few. (I know there are many more). And no, Rambo is not on the list. __________________ http://www.vg-photo.com For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

09-26-2007, 03:58 AM	#11
Konigstiger205 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bucharest Posts: 907	The Templar Knights are a good choice and the article on wikipedia tells much about their contribution to many battles...Knights Templar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia __________________ These airplanes we have today are no more than a perfection of a child's toy made of paper."Henri Coanda"

09-26-2007, 07:54 AM	#12
Soundbreaker Welch? Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 1,893	How about the Stormtrooper? __________________ "His motor's conked out!" "What's the differance, they're all Nazis!" "Luke, shut up!" "Fear the hook!" "Oh.....I wanna fly." "You mean the kind that go under water and fly up the stairs?" "What you doing? Oh Nooooo!"

09-26-2007, 08:30 AM	#13
Soren Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 6,113	Please guys take this seriously, jokes are always welcome but they need to b good ! mkloby, Yes its a great painting, here it is in a bigger size (Where did you get the wallpaper version ?): __________________ It was like being pushed by an Angel! - Adolf Galland I'm an educated engineer, so I love being technical and appraising of great inventions. So if you think I am being biased about something: Tell me! Then you'll probably find out that I am not

09-26-2007, 08:37 AM	#14
The Basket Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 584	Alexander TG. Conquered the world.

09-26-2007, 08:50 AM	#15
Thorlifter Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 4,346	How about Genghis Kahn's Mongolian hordes? This is a tough call.

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