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04-14-2006, 05:31 PM
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#31 | | Senior Member
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10-09-2006, 12:33 PM
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#32 | | Junior Member
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Country:  | I voted for Re2005, but I think MC205 was an excellent
fighter as well.
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12-26-2006, 04:51 PM
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#33 | | Senior Member
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| The Germans seemed to think that the Fiat G55 was the best though. They even considerred replacing the Bf-109 with them but they turned out to be too expensive...
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12-26-2006, 06:30 PM
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12-26-2006, 06:34 PM
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Country: | I vote for the MC 205. The RE-2005 wasn't available in large numbers (for an Italian fighter). The 205 was at least mentioned in air to air combat, I don;t know about the 2005. BTW, doesn;t anyone question the RE-2005's speed at 2000m, 421?!?
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06-06-2007, 05:40 AM
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Country: | I'voted g-55 couse for germans it was better
It was only slowest than 205 but better in everything else
The speed of the reggiane was 678 km/h only for the use of an original db605 and not the fiat tifone that was rated 100 hp less.
Using the fiat engine it was only 25 km/h faster than g-55.
The g-55 was sturdier than reggiane (who had problems in hi g manouvres) and carrie 100 rounds for each 20 mm gun more than re.2005.
The g-55 impressed german engineers (including kurt tank, fw 190 designer and also a test pilot) for the total absence of vibration in vertical dive.
Ace Adolf Galland personally phone to Herman Goring to tell him that g-55 was the better assis fighter; better than 109g and fw 190.
In other words, maybe the g-55 maibe was not the better plane but sure it was the better weapon.
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06-06-2007, 08:36 AM
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#37 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | He believed it was better than the Bf 109 but I dont believe he ever said itw as better than the Fw 190. Excuse me if I am wrong.
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06-06-2007, 12:28 PM
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#38 | | Junior Member
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Country: | in febbruary 1943 it was better than 109g and 190a
from: Fiat G.55 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In December 1942 a technical commission of the Regia Aeronautica was invited by Luftwaffe to test some German aircraft in Rechlin. The visit was part of a joint plan for the standardization of the Axis aircraft production. In the same time some Luftwaffe officers visited Guidonia where they were particularly interested in the performances promised by the Serie 5 plane. On December 9 these impressions were discussed in a Luftwaffe staff meeting and raised the interest of Goering himself. In February 1943 a German test commission was sent in Italy to evaluate the new Italian fighters. The commission was led by Oberst Petersen and was formed by Luftwaffe officers and pilots and by technical personnel, among them the Flugbaumeister Malz. The Germans carried with them also several aircraft included a Fw 190A and a Bf 109G for direct comparison tests in simulated dogfights.
The tests began February 20. The German commission was very impressed by the Italian aircraft, the G.55 in particular. In general, all the Serie 5 fighters were very good at low altitudes, but the G.55 was competitive with its German opponents also in term of speed and climb rate at high altitudes still maintaining superior handling characteristics. The definitive evaluation by the German commission was "excellent" for the G.55, "good" for the Re.2005 and "average" for the C.205. Oberst Petersen defined the G.55 "the best fighter in the Axis" and immediately telegraphed his impressions to Goering. After listening the recommendations of Petersen, Milch and Galland, a meeting held by Goering on February 22 voted to produce the G.55 in Germany | |
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06-06-2007, 02:30 PM
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#39 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | I stand corrected.
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06-06-2007, 02:32 PM
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Country:  | nice aircraft but they also found out it was man hour intensive to manufacture or not enough bang for the buck
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06-06-2007, 02:35 PM
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#41 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Yeap and that regards the 109 and 190 were superior.
__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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06-07-2007, 02:35 AM
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Country: | so you think 109g is better than spitfire mk VIII couse spit needs more man hours? | |
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06-07-2007, 08:51 AM
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#43 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Did I say that at all in my post?
Nope....
I do however think the Spit and the 109G were very close with each one having advantages and disadvantages over the other. Most people will agree with me on that.
__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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06-07-2007, 02:13 PM
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| The Re-2005 hands down. Too bad it didn't see the ervice it deserved.
__________________  We have built a total of about 1250 of this aircraft (Me-262), but only fifty were allowed to be used as fighters - as interceptors. And out of this fifty, there were never more than 25 operational. So we had only a very, very few.
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06-07-2007, 03:11 PM
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Country:  | Don't know that much about Italian planes, but didn't have all the Reggiane planes have problems with the tail structure or was this solved in later models (like the 2005)? Just curious.
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