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07-05-2008, 10:12 AM
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Country:  | Who shot down the Red Baron?
90 years ago, the Manfred Von Richthofen was shot down in a mysterious death over Morlancourt ridge in France. Now the question remains, who really shot down the Baron, Captain Arthur "Roy" Brown, or Australian gunner Cedric Popkin?
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07-05-2008, 10:40 AM
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Country:  | Im goin with Roy
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07-05-2008, 10:42 AM
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Country: | The guy on the ground had a higher probability of a lethal hit than Brown did....
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07-05-2008, 10:45 AM
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#4 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | I'm going with Popkin but we will never know. It was probably a combination of both that brought him down.
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07-05-2008, 11:34 AM
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Country:  | i understood he was shot down an r.a.f.pilot called..rhys-davis.yours.starling.
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07-05-2008, 11:54 AM
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Country:  | The details of the death of the Red Baron are sketchy and not so clear but from what I read in wikipedia I'll go with Popkin.
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07-05-2008, 11:55 AM
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#7 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | Rhys-Davis was KIA 6 months before Richthofen was shot down...
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07-05-2008, 12:38 PM
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#8 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by starling  i understood he was shot down an r.a.f.pilot called..rhys-davis.yours.starling. | How is that possible when Arthur Percival Foley Rhys Davids was killed on Oct. 27, 1917. The Red Baron was shot down and killed on 21 April 1918.
Thats about a 6 month time period.
Arthur Percival Foley Rhys Davids was credited with shooting down Werner Voss on 23 Sept. 1917 though...
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07-05-2008, 01:26 PM
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Country: | must of been reading a different book.  .or maybe the valium is kicking in.  .
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07-05-2008, 02:36 PM
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#10 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | You probably got Richtofen confused with Voss. Davids did shoot down Voss in 1917.
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07-05-2008, 05:37 PM
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Country:  | The eye witness testimony is inconclusive and contradictory in the shooting down of the Red Baron. For many years there has certainly been a movement to discredit Brown. IMHO most of the physical evidence supports Brown downing the Red Baron.
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07-05-2008, 06:26 PM
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#12 | | Senior Member
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| Anyone know what killed him as in was he hit in the head or heart or......?
I would "think" the round that killed him would not of been the same from ground and aircraft fire...???... I guess know one cared to look at that time ..
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07-05-2008, 07:19 PM
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#13 | | Senior Member
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Country: | They talk how the angle the bullet entered his body was not possible from Roy's position in his plane. But again, that could be bias agains't him, conspiracy theorists and all. 
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07-06-2008, 12:06 AM
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Country: | He landed the plane intact before dying, right. (I remember hearin on a doccumentary that his plane was burned afterward but according to wikipedia it was picked apart for souvenirs)
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07-06-2008, 12:31 AM
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It was probily a combination of things. Maybe he had a stroke caused by his head injury not long before. Maybe he was tired of fighting and shot himself.
By the way when is the Red Baron movie coming out in the US?
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