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| View Poll Results: Who shot down Manfred Von Richthofen? | |||
| Captain Arthur "Roy" Brown |     | 20 | 36.36% |
| Sergeant Cedric Popkin |    | 24 | 43.64% |
| Other (Specify) |    | 11 | 20.00% |
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07-05-2008, 11:12 AM
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| Senior Member  Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Manila, Philippines
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| Who shot down the Red Baron? 90 years ago, the Manfred Von Richthofen was shot down in a mysterious death over Morlancourt ridge in France. Now the question remains, who really shot down the Baron, Captain Arthur "Roy" Brown, or Australian gunner Cedric Popkin? -Pong
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07-05-2008, 11:40 AM
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| Senior Member  Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Escondido,Ca
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| Im goin with Roy
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07-05-2008, 11:42 AM
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| Minister of Whoopass   Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi
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| The guy on the ground had a higher probability of a lethal hit than Brown did....
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07-05-2008, 11:45 AM
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| Der Crewchief  Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany
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| I'm going with Popkin but we will never know. It was probably a combination of both that brought him down.
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07-05-2008, 12:34 PM
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| i understood he was shot down an r.a.f.pilot called..rhys-davis.yours.starling.
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07-05-2008, 12:54 PM
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| The details of the death of the Red Baron are sketchy and not so clear but from what I read in wikipedia I'll go with Popkin.
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07-05-2008, 12:55 PM
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| IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO  Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado, USA
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| Rhys-Davis was KIA 6 months before Richthofen was shot down...
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07-05-2008, 01:38 PM
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| Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany
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Thats about a 6 month time period. Arthur Percival Foley Rhys Davids was credited with shooting down Werner Voss on 23 Sept. 1917 though...
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07-05-2008, 02:26 PM
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| must of been reading a different book.  .or maybe the valium is kicking in. .
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07-05-2008, 03:36 PM
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| Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany
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| You probably got Richtofen confused with Voss. Davids did shoot down Voss in 1917.
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07-05-2008, 06:37 PM
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| The eye witness testimony is inconclusive and contradictory in the shooting down of the Red Baron. For many years there has certainly been a movement to discredit Brown. IMHO most of the physical evidence supports Brown downing the Red Baron. Slaterat |
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07-05-2008, 07:26 PM
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| Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Prescott Arizona USA
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| Anyone know what killed him as in was he hit in the head or heart or......? I would "think" the round that killed him would not of been the same from ground and aircraft fire...???... I guess know one cared to look at that time .. I have a real good old VHS tape on him .. I'll have to look at it again and see what it says.. |
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07-05-2008, 08:19 PM
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| Senior Member  Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Colorado, USA
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| They talk how the angle the bullet entered his body was not possible from Roy's position in his plane. But again, that could be bias agains't him, conspiracy theorists and all. 
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07-06-2008, 01:06 AM
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| He landed the plane intact before dying, right. (I remember hearin on a doccumentary that his plane was burned afterward but according to wikipedia it was picked apart for souvenirs) Last edited by kool kitty89; 07-06-2008 at 01:57 AM. |
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07-06-2008, 01:31 AM
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| Snoopy It was probily a combination of things. Maybe he had a stroke caused by his head injury not long before. Maybe he was tired of fighting and shot himself. By the way when is the Red Baron movie coming out in the US?
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