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07-16-2004, 10:57 PM
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#76 | | Member
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Country:  | well what i can say is that the italians weren't so good cuz the're planes were quite easy to shoot down and they only served in the north African theater from what i know
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07-17-2004, 11:47 AM
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#77 | | Master of Ewes
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Country:  | even there they weren't much good.......................
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07-17-2004, 04:39 PM
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Country: | The Italians served in France, North Africa, Italy, Balkans and Russia.
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07-17-2004, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by dead parrot There was a sense that Germans were ethnic/cultural cousins, and that they had been very hard done by by the Versailles treaty. This group sort of represented a kind of old-fashioned, Jerry's-not-a-bad-bloke, all-that-mess-at-the-end-of-the-Great-War-was-a-bit-unsporting, eh old boy, yes, rather kind of out-of-date thinking. | Which would be correct. The Germans were hard-hit by the treaty of versailles, and, some how I doubt that the Nazi party would have even been taken seriously if everyone was a bit more charitable at the end of the Great War.
The fly in the ointment was the fact that this group you mentioned had no idea what hitler was actually up to.
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07-17-2004, 09:04 PM
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#80 | | Senior Member
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Country: | There's more to the ending of the Great War leaving a bitter taste in Germans mouths than the Versailles Diktat. The fact that the British and French allowed the German troops go home with weapons, and their regimental colours without any form of occupation meant that the German nation didn't believe it had been beaten only betrayed.
And that's one reason why the blame the Jews and Communists idea went down so well within Germany.
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07-18-2004, 04:51 AM
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Country:  | HI guys im still not sure after reading all the posted articals what the original question was is it the nation that put on the worst show in which case there are many none of which appear in your list as I have always felt that it was those nations that did nothing but had a free ride on the backs of those who fought for freedom ( I dont think Adolf would have been content withjust an empire from Europe too the Japanese imperial conquests ) I include most of the African continent and South America, Switzland ect . Or is it the worst fight put up by a nation in which case id say Belgium .Or is it the worst as a fighting force The Italian Mountain troops where superb and the same can be said of their Miarley (chariot) divers so in terms of an army again i pick the Belgiums . Or is it purely the worst nation as war mongers then i pick the Japanese a nation that claimed to be honourable and had no honour what so ever, never mind Knights of the Bushido, from the invasion of China through the rape of Nankin and the death marches too their final surrender and even up to today they have never admitted their wrong doings not my most favorite people. (bet that causes a few comments)  PS if the A-bombs had not been dropped the deaths amongst the civil population in an allied invasion would have run into millions. | |
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11-21-2004, 12:35 PM
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#82 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | I would have to agree with France. I am sorry but they completely squandered any chance of stopping the Germans. With Blitzkrieg who would have thought the magino line would have stoped the Germans? The Germans were not that stupid in the first place they just went around. The French and many of the Allies were expecting a war like WWI fought in trenches. And when the Germans took them by suprise they just tucked there tails and ran.
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11-24-2004, 03:44 PM
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11-25-2004, 01:50 PM
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#84 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Whoever did is out of there mind. The war would have been hard to win without them.
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11-25-2004, 02:59 PM
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11-26-2004, 11:11 AM
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#86 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | How do you think the war would have turned out had the US never entered the war?
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11-26-2004, 11:26 AM
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Country: | Well we would have had to produce a lot more planes, tanks etc, meaning we would have run out of resources quicker. I still think we would have won but it would have been a lot longer and a lot more difficult. But thats only if the Japs werent in the war at all. If they attacked us too I think we'd have been done for.
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11-26-2004, 01:35 PM
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#88 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | i don't see how the hell japan are gonna attak us?? and we wouldn't have run out of resorses because america would still help us out.............
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11-26-2004, 01:40 PM
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| Lanc, they're imagining what would happen if American WAS NOT in the war. At all. No help. No Nothing. Zip. Zilch. Zero. Nada. | |
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11-26-2004, 03:15 PM
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Country: | Thankyou. Well the Japs could stick a navy fleet in the Atlantic for a start lanc....
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