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The pilots name was Len Hobbs.... |
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09-21-2005, 01:21 PM
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#61 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | The USAF trained Orenda personel to service and fly the aircraft.
The pilots name was Len Hobbs. | 
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09-21-2005, 01:37 PM
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#62 | | He who does not skim
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I had this place apart last night, and my nephew can't find it. He "couldn't remember" if he had it or not. 
I'll be over to his place on the weekend, and while I'm there he and I will do a little hunting. It is a rare book, long out of print, so I'll be hard pressed to replace it unless I can find something on-line. It's not looking good. | |
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09-21-2005, 02:03 PM
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09-21-2005, 03:59 PM
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#64 | | He who does not skim
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Country: | Well I'm not done yet. I'll see what I can turn up. I want that book.
Wanna give me yours?  | |
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09-21-2005, 05:09 PM
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09-21-2005, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Nonskimmer Well I'm not done yet. I'll see what I can turn up. I want that book.
Wanna give me yours? | I would but...ahh...hmm, damn I can't think of an excuse at the moment. 
I checked the Boston Mills Press website and it looks like the Arrow book is available in soft-cover for about $30.
Good eye FBJ you must be a pilot. | |
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09-21-2005, 07:13 PM
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09-21-2005, 08:03 PM
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#68 | | He who does not skim
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Originally Posted by Dac I checked the Boston Mills Press website and it looks like the Arrow book is available in soft-cover for about $30. | Depending on how this weekend goes, I'll be looking that up! 
In fact, I might as well just do it. I know damn well he lost the book. Or worse, gave it away. 
Thanks for the heads up. | |
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09-21-2005, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Dac
Good eye FBJ you must be a pilot.
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09-21-2005, 10:03 PM
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10-18-2005, 12:26 PM
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Country: | I think the Avero Aero could still today be a formidable foe of the enemy,
the Plane if it was rebuilt would just need upgrade electronic and technical,
I heard it can out preform the F-18 Hornet in some areas.
It was a big and heavy plane as well, its weight was equal to the Lanc Bomber of ww2, but new alloys exist now so if it was rebuil with lighter metals It could very well outperform the F-4 in speed and the F-15 in Agility.
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10-18-2005, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 102first_hussars I think the Avero Aero could still today be a formidable foe of the enemy,
the Plane if it was rebuilt would just need upgrade electronic and technical,
I heard it can out preform the F-18 Hornet in some areas.
It was a big and heavy plane as well, its weight was equal to the Lanc Bomber of ww2, but new alloys exist now so if it was rebuil with lighter metals It could very well outperform the F-4 in speed and the F-15 in Agility. | I think we're seening the thing wan't that maneuvable - it was a head of its time, but it's time has passed - I think it was sohwn that the F-106 was probably as good if not a better performer. I think the F-15, Tornado, F-16 and later Mirage models would of ate it for lunch....
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10-25-2005, 07:16 PM
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Country:  | the b47 was actually flown with just the iroqouis can't recall the source it may be anecdotlal as i worked with guys who saw the thing work and were present for most of the flights the arrow with it immense weapons bay and range it was well beyond the capabilities of the afore mentioned 106's and lightning the f 5s mentioned earlier were basically a an aircraft of little use to rcaf to due lack of range (required 8 refuellings on excercise flights from goose to norway) source for that info is myself it was manufactured to keep canadair working after the 104 production run was over the voodoo is my favourite and was totally outclassed by the arrow even in its prototype mode though they i believe both employed the j79 going back to the weapons systems with the updated electronics mostly weight saving it might of been a capable f111 contender | |
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10-25-2005, 11:22 PM
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Country: | Great info - I think she would of been formidable against bombers but would of had a tough time air-to-air
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