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Post-War Discuss 'Clipped' F-8 Crusader in the Other Eras forums; Originally Posted by ccheese Matt: I was talking about the F4U..... Charles That's possible?!?!...


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Old 09-21-2007, 04:30 PM   #16
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I was talking about the F4U.....

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That's possible?!?!
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Old 11-05-2007, 12:23 PM   #17
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Yes, it is true.

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However, the aircraft did possess some amazing capabilities, as proven when several hapless Crusader pilots took off from Da Nang with the wings folded. The Crusader was capable of flying in this state, though the pilot would be required to lose weight by ejecting stores and fuel, and then return to the carrier.
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Old 11-06-2007, 01:09 PM   #18
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The Crusader was capable of flying in this state, though the pilot would be required to lose weight ...
I bet. Vacating your bowels is what I would imagine.
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Old 11-06-2007, 01:37 PM   #19
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Thumbs up Wings-Folded Club

I'm sure you love the story of Wings-Folded Club , + a bonus story (see the last two pages)
from this wonderful book "Mig Master",
Cheers,

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Old 11-06-2007, 01:57 PM   #20
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Christ that hurts my eyes. I've either become a Liliputian or that post was WAY to big.
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Old 11-06-2007, 02:48 PM   #21
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Christ that hurts my eyes. I've either become a Liliputian or that post was WAY to big.
Actually I was amazed to ( What a Scanner ) don't tell me it's too small now !

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Interesting story about an F8 that had a ghost in it. This F8, NM111 had some slight longitudinal control problems. It seems that sometimes the stick froze on takeoff momentarily. The maintenance people checked it out and could find nothing wrong. The next day the AC was flown with an afterburner takeoff from the field and the pilot pulled the nose up into a max performance climb. As he approached the optimum climb angle he eased the back pressure or tried to as the stick would not move. The nose continued to move up toward the vertical. Using the notion that no flight attitude is unusual for a fighter pilot, he rolled the plane inverted and pulled the nose to the horizon. The stick moved great in that direction. Once he was level he rolled back upright. Everything worked OK after that. He reported the problem on landing and after an exhaustive investigation it was found that inside a leather sleeve enclosing the push rod linkages a bolt had found it's way inside and under the right G load it would jam the linkage.
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Old 11-09-2007, 09:38 PM   #23
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i read once that when a f8 pilot realized that he was 'wingless', he simply rolled slightly left and right, and that snaped his wings into place!
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Old 11-11-2007, 01:27 AM   #24
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Well snaping your wing into place is quite a feat.
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They said it was not the recommended cores of action
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The Supermarine Attacker had small folding wing tips.



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The ailerons on a Crusader are inbord of the wing fold ,therefore all control surfaces are active even with the wings folded..This type of flight is not adviasble but has happened more than once.
Another interesting first for the Crusader is it was the first aircraft to shoot itself down.The prototype F8U-3 injested spent shell casings when it fired its cannons which led to engine failure and crash."Crusader,last of the gunfighters."
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Folded wing flights happen 7 times......also the F8U-3 did not have guns/cannons it was a missle carrying plane so it did not shoot itself down.
The Grumman F-11 Tiger did though.

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I don't recall the aircraft type, but I believe it was one of the 1950's era USN jets that shot itself down. IIRC, the pilot fired the cannon in a shallow climb, then nosed down and hit the power. Shortly afterwards, he ran into the descending shells....

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Years and years ago I heard this also happened with a Corsair. Took off
with the wings folded, but crashed trying to land. Don't know about the
accuracy of the story, tho.

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I know that the AD-1 Skyraider has done that a few times, also, but AFAIK one never crashed trying to land.
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I am sure that WW1 AC shot themselves down often before synchronising gear was perfected and after when it failed.
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