Cold war jets dirt run way ?

Haztoys · 02-14-2006, 10:14 PM

Could a cold war jet be flown off of.. And landed on.. A dirt runway?

And how much of "said" runway would a USA or USSR small fighter of the Cold War need to take off and land ?

Thanks

David

Hazardous Toys inc

FLYBOYJ · 02-14-2006, 10:51 PM

Most Soviet cold war combat aircraft were designed to be operated from dirt strips -

As far as take off distances - it depends...
Load, air temp, runway elevation above sea level, that's for starters....

Haztoys · 02-14-2006, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ

Most Soviet cold war combat aircraft were designed to be operated from dirt strips -

As far as take off distances - it depends...
Load, air temp, runway elevation above sea level, that's for starters....

So what would max runway length for take off be at 5000 feet elevation...Just about numbers... Say a "light" load..?

Thanks

David

Hazardous Toys inc

pbfoot · 02-15-2006, 05:59 AM

I can't find any pics but i believe the Mig 23 even had a "mudguard " on the nose wheel to prevent FOD from being thrown up

FLYBOYJ · 02-15-2006, 08:25 AM

Here are some examples

These are all at sea level - to figure out what the distances would be at 5000' you would need the POH - there are charts that will give you those distances based on temperature...

Mig-15 take off distance was 400m
F-86D Takeoff distance to clear 50-foot obstacle: 3600 feet
F-14A Minimum takeoff distance 1400 feet
L-29 Takeoff distance to clear 50-foot obstacle: 3500 feet

FLYBOYJ · 02-15-2006, 06:28 PM

Just remembered, you normally add 10% to the published take off distance for grass or dirt runways, and that's before you compensate for altitude and air temp....

pbfoot · 02-15-2006, 06:59 PM

Did the Warpac hi-performance combat aircraft have arrestor hooks and if they used a rough field was there any arrester system ?

FLYBOYJ · 02-15-2006, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by pbfoot

Did the Warpac hi-performance combat aircraft have arrestor hooks and if they used a rough field was there any arrester system ?

From East block aircraft I've seen really up close or worked on (Mig-15, 17, 19, 21, 23, L-29, L-39, TS-11) I've never seen any arrestor system - No need for arrestor systems on dirt runways, the same way the take off distance is usually and additional 10%, landing distance is usually reduced 10% on dirt strips for most aircraft....

Haztoys · 02-20-2006, 11:43 PM

Thanks..FLYBOYJ

You seem to really know your Cold War jets

Will I have anuff land for "my" runway in my back yard (500+ acres

)

And I can legally have the runway in my back yard

Now I just need the right jet....

"Yes Mr Tax Man".... That Mig 17 is used for crop dusting on my farm...And "the right to farm law" says I can have the run way ,,Legally

So I can wright the plane off as a farm tool on my taxes..Just like a truck or a tractor

That's my plan guys ...

My tax lawyer almost choked... When I asked him... Then he called me back after he looked in to it ..And said it looks to be legal .. He was laughing so hard he could hardly speak... He says I should of been a tax lawyer the way I find the holes in the tax rules....

I know I'm crazy ... But this is just another stupid stunt I'm going to pull off ... In a long line of stupid stunt...LOL ..I've gotten away with ..

the lancaster kicks ass · 02-21-2006, 03:18 AM

man that sounds cool

if you're really strapped for space though get a harrier.... infact just get a harrier anyway!

cheddar cheese · 02-22-2006, 09:55 AM

Nah it sounds more impressive saying you have a MiG

R988 · 04-04-2006, 10:52 AM

could always get a yak-38, maybe the tax man will think it's a farm animal