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CF-100 Canuck 2 20.00%
F-82 Sabre 8 80.00%
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Old 10-09-2005, 02:12 AM   #16
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Because the American Sabre only produces around 6000 ib thrust.
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Old 10-09-2005, 02:25 AM   #17
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But does the plus 1,500 lbs make up for the increase in weight? And it'd be much better with 23,000 lbs.
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Old 10-09-2005, 06:24 AM   #18
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The the CL-13 was the Canadiar desigation for the Sabre
Yeah, we always have to change things like that for some reason. Like sticking the red maple leaf in the centre of the McDonald's logo. We've "Canadianized" it.
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Old 10-09-2005, 06:41 AM   #19
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My god ...next you'll be sticking the maple leaf in your flag and saying you're a real country.
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Old 10-09-2005, 07:11 AM   #20
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And then there goes North America...
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Old 10-09-2005, 07:18 AM   #21
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Seriously though, we do that with a lot of things. I mean I'm a proud enough Canuck and all, but...I dunno. It just seems a bit pointless to me sometimes to have to stick a leaf on something just to make it seem home-grown to people who couldn't really care less anyway. What's the difference?
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Old 10-09-2005, 07:29 AM   #22
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Well, you get CJD from Canadian McDonalds ...maybe that's the difference.
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Old 10-09-2005, 11:29 AM   #23
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The weight of a Aussie Sabre was about 10% more than an F86F, Its engine the Avon was about had about a 23% increase in thrust compared to the J47-GE-27.
This was more than enough to give a significant improvement in performance over the USA Sabre, as well as having all the extra kit.

As an aside, the Avon weighed less than the J47 and had a lower fuel consumption, which helped the designers with weight and gave an increase in range.
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Old 10-09-2005, 11:39 AM   #24
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Can't you just sling all the information about the Australian Sabre at me, please? How did it compare to the F-86F? Speed? Ceiling? Performance at altitude? So on and so forth. And ...what the hell did it look like?
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Old 10-09-2005, 12:00 PM   #25
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Here you go for some pics:

http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/s...ersarybg_1.htm
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Old 10-09-2005, 12:02 PM   #26
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It looked like a Sabre but with two big gun ports not six little ones.

Commonwealth Sabre CA27
Empty Weight 12,100lb
loaded Weight 16,000ib
Max Speed 610MPH
Ceiling 55,000ft
Range with Drop tanks 1,150 miles
Thrust 7,500 lbs
Twin 30mm with 162 rounds

F86F
Empty Weight 10,890lbs
loaded weight 20,357lbs
Max Speed 600 mph
Ceiling 48,000ft
Range Drop Tanks 925 miles
Thrust 6,090 lbs

The first line say sound like a joke, but that is the only major visible difference.
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Old 10-09-2005, 12:34 PM   #27
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That's a good picture. Thanks. And thanks for the information.
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Old 10-16-2005, 05:16 PM   #28
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Well of the two I would deffinatly go with the Sabre and I dont think that the Sabre really had much competition besides the Mig-15 at the the time and it proved what was better.
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