How many "V" tails entered production? - Aircraft of World War II

Capt. Vick · 08-19-2009, 01:18 AM

Was wracking my brain tonight trying to get to sleep and I was trying to answer the following: Are the Beech Bonanza and the Fouga Magister the only two aircraft to enter production with a "V" tail?

GrauGeist · 08-19-2009, 01:24 AM

The F-117 and UAV aircraft like the Global Predator have 'em...

I think the Global Hawk has an inverted V tail...or it might be the other way around.

vikingBerserker · 08-19-2009, 01:24 AM

I believe the F-117 has a V tail.

Dang GG beat me to the draw!

A4K · 08-19-2009, 05:00 AM

Good calls guys! The UAV has the inverted V-tail GG, btw.

I seem to remember other types with them...need to check up on some sources about that. Offhand the He 162 would 'almost' fit into the category, although technically, she was a double tailed with V-form tailplanes..

Not counting the gap between the tailplanes , the YF-23 might almost fit the category too....

Capt. Vick · 08-19-2009, 05:29 AM

How could I have missed the F-117?

Thanks for that one!

And I'll give you the "Black Widow II" A4K. I was thinking of one set of control surfaces that do the work of two. Another good one - that's thinking outside the box, BUT sadly it did not enter production... I always thought it looked the better of the two.

Graeme · 08-19-2009, 08:02 AM

Interesting thread Vick. How many aircraft produced meet your criteria of "entered production?" There are many 'one-offs' but numbered production varieties are certainly very limited. However, here's another, the Robin ATL of which 132 were manufactured...

Robin ATL - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

vikingBerserker · 08-19-2009, 09:30 PM

I know it did not reach production, but I never heard of a v-tailed Me 109.

http://rareaircraf1.greyfalcon.us/picturese/g309.jpg

Anybody else ever heard of this??

GrauGeist · 08-19-2009, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vikingBerserker

I know it did not reach production, but I never heard of a v-tailed Me 109.

http://rareaircraf1.greyfalcon.us/picturese/g309.jpg

Anybody else ever heard of this??

The Germans had been playing with V tail concepts for a while. Even the Me262 and He162 had conceptual designs with a V tail. The next step for the Me262 was to have the engines moved into the wings and a V tail at the end of a slightly lengthened fuselage.

No surprise though, the V tail was first done by a Polish engineer back in the 30's.

Trebor · 08-20-2009, 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrauGeist

The F-117 and UAV aircraft like the Global Predator have 'em...

I think the Global Hawk has an inverted V tail...or it might be the other way around.

the Predator's got an inverted V-tail. and the Hawk's got an upright one.

GrauGeist · 08-20-2009, 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trebor

the Predator's got an inverted V-tail. and the Hawk's got an upright one.

Ahh..ok, so I had it backwards.

Thanks!

Capt. Vick · 08-20-2009, 06:26 AM

I never heard of the Robin ATL. Interesting "kite", even had forward swept wings. Hey, that may be another thread...Ju 287, X-29, Robin Atl, Hansa jet(?). Perhaps for another sleepless night.

08-19-2009, 01:18 AM	#1
Capt. Vick Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 159	How many "V" tails entered production? Was wracking my brain tonight trying to get to sleep and I was trying to answer the following: Are the Beech Bonanza and the Fouga Magister the only two aircraft to enter production with a "V" tail? __________________ Jack Burton: I don't get this at all. I thought Lo Pan- Lo Pan: Shut up, Mr. Burton! You are not brought upon this world to get it!

08-19-2009, 01:24 AM	#2
GrauGeist Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Redding, California Posts: 3,357	The F-117 and UAV aircraft like the Global Predator have 'em... I think the Global Hawk has an inverted V tail...or it might be the other way around. __________________ "Look back over the past, with its changing empires that rose and fell, and you can foresee the future." - Marcus Aurelius, Emperor of Rome > I Support Doug Gillis <

08-19-2009, 01:24 AM	#3
vikingBerserker Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: South Carolina Posts: 3,768	I believe the F-117 has a V tail. Dang GG beat me to the draw! __________________ "Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it" "Those who dwell in the past, condemn the future"

08-19-2009, 05:29 AM	#5
Capt. Vick Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 159	Duh! How could I have missed the F-117? Thanks for that one! And I'll give you the "Black Widow II" A4K. I was thinking of one set of control surfaces that do the work of two. Another good one - that's thinking outside the box, BUT sadly it did not enter production... I always thought it looked the better of the two. __________________ Jack Burton: I don't get this at all. I thought Lo Pan- Lo Pan: Shut up, Mr. Burton! You are not brought upon this world to get it! Last edited by Capt. Vick; 08-19-2009 at 05:41 AM.

08-19-2009, 09:30 PM	#7
vikingBerserker Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: South Carolina Posts: 3,768	I know it did not reach production, but I never heard of a v-tailed Me 109. http://rareaircraf1.greyfalcon.us/picturese/g309.jpg Anybody else ever heard of this?? __________________ "Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it" "Those who dwell in the past, condemn the future" Last edited by vikingBerserker; 08-19-2009 at 09:35 PM.

08-19-2009, 05:00 AM	#4
A4K Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3,232	Good calls guys! The UAV has the inverted V-tail GG, btw. I seem to remember other types with them...need to check up on some sources about that. Offhand the He 162 would 'almost' fit into the category, although technically, she was a double tailed with V-form tailplanes.. Not counting the gap between the tailplanes , the YF-23 might almost fit the category too....

08-19-2009, 08:02 AM	#6
Graeme Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,081	Interesting thread Vick. How many aircraft produced meet your criteria of "entered production?" There are many 'one-offs' but numbered production varieties are certainly very limited. However, here's another, the Robin ATL of which 132 were manufactured... Robin ATL - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

08-20-2009, 06:26 AM	#11
Capt. Vick Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 159	Interesting Graeme! I never heard of the Robin ATL. Interesting "kite", even had forward swept wings. Hey, that may be another thread...Ju 287, X-29, Robin Atl, Hansa jet(?). Perhaps for another sleepless night. __________________ Jack Burton: I don't get this at all. I thought Lo Pan- Lo Pan: Shut up, Mr. Burton! You are not brought upon this world to get it!

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