 | Identify this structure| Post-War Discuss Identify this structure in the Other Eras forums; Evans is correct.
I'm still investigating what bomb test gouged out the crater in the reef.... |
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09-16-2006, 02:07 PM
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| Evans is correct.
I'm still investigating what bomb test gouged out the crater in the reef.
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09-16-2006, 02:17 PM
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Country:  | I initially thout it was from another test. It looks like it was from Ivy King, the largest non-hydrogen explosion. It was 500 kilotons. Still looking, but Ivy King was 2000 feet north of Runit, so that is most likely it.
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09-16-2006, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by evangilder I initially thout it was from another test. It looks like it was from Ivy King, the largest non-hydrogen explosion. It was 500 kilotons. Still looking, but Ivy King was 2000 feet north of Runit, so that is most likely it. | I dont believe it was Ivy King. 2000 ft away is far from the island.
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09-16-2006, 07:09 PM
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#19 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | 2000 feet is less than half a mile. Looks about right judging by the picture.
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09-16-2006, 07:26 PM
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Country: | It may be LaCrosse after all. I was looking into that one earlier and just read this:
Test: Lacrosse
Time: 18:25 4 May 1956 (GMT)
06:25 5 May 1956 (local)
Location: Platform on reef off Runit (Yvonne) Island, Enewetak Atoll
Test Height and Type: 8 feet above platform, 17 feet above reef, surface burst
Yield: 40 kt
LASL test of an externally initiated boosted primary in a thermonuclear system mockup for the TX-39 (a redesign of the Mk-15). The overall device was 34.5 inches in diameter and 100 inches long, weight was 8386 lb., the primary system was 583 lb. Predicted yield was 25-50 kt. This primary was similar to the all oralloy device safety tested in Project 56 #1. This primary was used in the Redwing Apache thermonuclear shot, and was similar to the device later fired in Plumbbob Priscilla.
Crater dimensions were 400 feet wide, 55 feet deep.
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09-16-2006, 07:28 PM
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Test: Cactus
Time: 18:15 5 May 1958 (GMT)
06:15 6 May 1958 (local)
Location: Runit (Yvonne) Island, Enewetak Atoll
Test Height and Type: Surface, 3 feet off shot building floor
Yield: 18 kt
LASL test of a MK-43 primary in a thermonuclear system mockup. Similar to to the Elder device. Predicted yield 13-14 kt. The Cactus device primary weighed 110.3 lb (50 kg). The over all device weighed 1432 lb. and had a width of 18 inches and a length of 69 inches.
The device was detonated 596 feet southwest of the Redwing Lacrosse crater. The Cactus crater had a diameter of 346 feet, and a maximum depth of 37.2 feet (with a 8-14 foot lip). In 1979-1980 this crater was used as a burial pit to inter 110,000 cubic yards of radioactive soil scraped from the various contaminated Enewetak Atoll islands.
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09-16-2006, 10:46 PM
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| Evansglider, I believe youre right.
I suspected it was Lacrosse, but I wanted to look at the test data more closely.
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09-17-2006, 02:11 AM
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Country: | The reason I think it was Lacrosse now is because I would think a 500 kiloton yield from Ivy King would have made a larger crater than the one seen in the picture. The 2 craters look similar in size and the dimensions are close.
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09-17-2006, 04:23 AM
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09-17-2006, 02:48 PM
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09-17-2006, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet Thats pretty ****ing cool! | since its radioactive, maybe the term is "its pretty hot!" 
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