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The Incredible B-58

Post-War Discuss The Incredible B-58 in the Other Eras forums; I have always been impressed by the B-58, mainly for the looks. I decided to take look and see how ...

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    The Incredible B-58

    I have always been impressed by the B-58, mainly for the looks. I decided to take look and see how this amazing, and dangerous, aircraft would stack up against the contemporary interceptor aircraft. So, here are some stats


    Wing Loading (wt/area)
    B-58 44
    F-4 78
    F-106 52
    F-104 105
    Lightning 88
    Mig-21 63

    Thrust to Weight (lbsThrust/wt)
    B-58 .78
    F-4 .86
    F-106 .71
    F-104 .75
    Lightning .78
    Mig-21 .79

    Max Speed (Mach)
    B-58 2.1
    F-4 2.23
    F-106 2.3
    F-104 2.2
    Lightning 2.27 (after 1965)
    Mig-21 2.05

    Service Ceiling (kft)
    B-58 63.4
    F-4 60
    F-106 57
    F-104 50k
    Lightning 60+ (after 1965)
    Mig-21 62.3


    So it is apparent that the B-58 had very similar performance with contemporary interceptors, which is an obvious advantage since the interceptors must climb to intercept. Once there, the B-58 typically had an altitude performance capability advantage, particularly over the Mig, which was slower. Now throw in the fact that the missiles in that era were particularly inefficient, and that the B-58 had a 20mm Vulcan canon for a tail stinger, and you have a potent weapons system….if it all worked. It was notoriously unreliable due to advanced and immature avionics. Also, due to the uniqueness of the delta wing, it was difficult to fly and had some inherent dangers, such as supersonic asymmetrical thrust with engine failure and instant obliteration. Apparently crews got used to it and appreciated its capabilities. I worked with a B-58 pilot and I think he was proud of it and spoke of the dangerous nature, but not in a hostile manner. The demise came with the improved ground-to-air missiles.



    Still, it was a magnificent and beautiful aircraft.

    The Convair B-58 Hustler - Video

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    I have always had an affinity for the B-58. I built a model of it years ago as a teenager.


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    Foir a short while, the "Hustler" held quite a few speed records. It was an impressive looking aircraft.

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    Real airplanes have round engines and two wings !

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    Truly a lovely aircraft!

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    When I was about 8 years old I could remember 2 of them overflying where I used to live. 42 years later I'll never forget that sight.

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    I would have wet myself if I seen them

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbfoot View Post
    I would have wet myself if I seen them
    Don't know about that, but I did wet myself one time when the Blue Angels were doing an airshow. They were flying right over the deck supersonic...I had had a coke in the car...The sonic boom...Well, you get the picture. I must have been all of 4 or 5.

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    The B58 was also one loud airplane.
    "Pilot to copilot..... what are those mountain goats doing up here in the clouds?"

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    You didn't happen to notice who was getting out of the B-58 at the end did you ??


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    I likewise enjoy the B-58.. Convair sure had a knack for the delta winged aircraft didn't they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by syscom3 View Post
    The B58 was also one loud airplane.
    Yeah, with four J-79's in AB, I'll bet! I thought a Phantom was loud in AB, I can't even imagine a Hustler!

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    Certainly a great aircraft. Not surprised she was loud though


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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelsup_cavu View Post
    You didn't happen to notice who was getting out of the B-58 at the end did you ??


    Wheelsup

    Jimmy Stewart?

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    Yes it was Jimmy Stewart who was climbing out of the B-58 at the end of the video Klarmie.
    The video clip posted by Davparlr was taken from "Champion of Champions" that was narrated by Jimmy Stewart and then re-edited to music.

    YouTube - B-58 Champion of Champions part 1 of 3
    YouTube - Champion of Champions part 2 of 3
    YouTube - Champion of Champions part 3 of 3


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