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06-01-2009, 12:11 PM
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| Senior Member  Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Southern California
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| The Incredible B-58 I have always been impressed by the B-58, mainly for the looks. I decided to take look and see how this amazing, and dangerous, aircraft would stack up against the contemporary interceptor aircraft. So, here are some stats Wing Loading (wt/area) B-58 44 F-4 78 F-106 52 F-104 105 Lightning 88 Mig-21 63 Thrust to Weight (lbsThrust/wt) B-58 .78 F-4 .86 F-106 .71 F-104 .75 Lightning .78 Mig-21 .79 Max Speed (Mach) B-58 2.1 F-4 2.23 F-106 2.3 F-104 2.2 Lightning 2.27 (after 1965) Mig-21 2.05 Service Ceiling (kft) B-58 63.4 F-4 60 F-106 57 F-104 50k Lightning 60+ (after 1965) Mig-21 62.3 So it is apparent that the B-58 had very similar performance with contemporary interceptors, which is an obvious advantage since the interceptors must climb to intercept. Once there, the B-58 typically had an altitude performance capability advantage, particularly over the Mig, which was slower. Now throw in the fact that the missiles in that era were particularly inefficient, and that the B-58 had a 20mm Vulcan canon for a tail stinger, and you have a potent weapons system….if it all worked. It was notoriously unreliable due to advanced and immature avionics. Also, due to the uniqueness of the delta wing, it was difficult to fly and had some inherent dangers, such as supersonic asymmetrical thrust with engine failure and instant obliteration. Apparently crews got used to it and appreciated its capabilities. I worked with a B-58 pilot and I think he was proud of it and spoke of the dangerous nature, but not in a hostile manner. The demise came with the improved ground-to-air missiles. Still, it was a magnificent and beautiful aircraft. The Convair B-58 Hustler - Video |
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06-01-2009, 12:40 PM
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| "Shooter"   Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA
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 | I have always had an affinity for the B-58. I built a model of it years ago as a teenager.
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06-01-2009, 01:05 PM
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| Older Than Dirt   Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Virginia Beach, Virginia
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| Foir a short while, the "Hustler" held quite a few speed records. It was an impressive looking aircraft. Charles
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06-01-2009, 03:18 PM
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| Senior Member  Join Date: May 2009 Location: Hamlet, NC, US
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| Truly a lovely aircraft! |
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06-01-2009, 03:41 PM
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| IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO  Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado, USA
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| When I was about 8 years old I could remember 2 of them overflying where I used to live. 42 years later I'll never forget that sight.
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06-01-2009, 05:13 PM
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| I would have wet myself if I seen them |
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06-01-2009, 05:19 PM
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06-01-2009, 06:09 PM
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| Senior Member  Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Orange County, CA
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| The B58 was also one loud airplane.
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06-01-2009, 06:57 PM
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| You didn't happen to notice who was getting out of the B-58 at the end did you ?? Wheelsup
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06-01-2009, 07:14 PM
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| Senior Member  Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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| I likewise enjoy the B-58.. Convair sure had a knack for the delta winged aircraft didn't they? |
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06-01-2009, 08:13 PM
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06-01-2009, 08:28 PM
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| Featured in the 1964 movie "Fail Safe" as the "Vindicator". Think it was her only Hollywood role. TO
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06-01-2009, 09:26 PM
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| "World Traveller"   Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Royal Deeside/St Andrews, Scotland, UK
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  | Certainly a great aircraft. Not surprised she was loud though 
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06-01-2009, 10:07 PM
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06-02-2009, 12:57 PM
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| Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Corona, California
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| Yes it was Jimmy Stewart who was climbing out of the B-58 at the end of the video Klarmie. The video clip posted by Davparlr was taken from "Champion of Champions" that was narrated by Jimmy Stewart and then re-edited to music. YouTube - B-58 Champion of Champions part 1 of 3 YouTube - Champion of Champions part 2 of 3 YouTube - Champion of Champions part 3 of 3 Wheelsup
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