 | Jet fighters/interceptors of the sizzling 60's?| Post-War Discuss Jet fighters/interceptors of the sizzling 60's? in the Other Eras forums; Originally Posted by Lucky13
Even worse than the Starfighter!? Crikey! Why was that then, was it because it lacked flaps ... |
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10-05-2008, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Lucky13 Even worse than the Starfighter!? Crikey!  Why was that then, was it because it lacked flaps and most accidents happened at landing? | Hard to say - I know Denmark operated them and also lost many. I think it might of been training and the mission.
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10-05-2008, 02:19 PM
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Country: | If I recall most of the fighters from that era had fairly high landing speeds in the area of 160 knots or more . As for the F100 did not the French also use them |
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10-05-2008, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by pbfoot If I recall most of the fighters from that era had fairly high landing speeds in the area of 160 knots or more . As for the F100 did not the French also use them | They did and If I remember right the F-100C landed at about 160 knts.
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10-05-2008, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ They did and If I remember right the F-100C landed at about 160 knts. | and a amazing 220 for a flapless 104 |
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10-05-2008, 03:08 PM
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10-05-2008, 03:10 PM
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| The Lightning had the shortest time from engine start to target acquisition and missle launch.
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10-05-2008, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by syscom3 The Lightning had the shortest time from engine start to target acquisition and missle launch. | where did you get this pearl of wisdom . All QRA'a are stationed near the end of the runway the aircraft are all plugged in and its just a matter of getting in and turning the key . If you took longer then 5 minutes from the bells til airborne you knew all about it .
I've worked hundreds of scrambles , the pilots got the bells as I copied down the scramble vector to pass to the aircraft as they taxied out from the Q the info was passed to the pilots with take off clearance
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10-05-2008, 04:23 PM
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10-05-2008, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Lucky13 If that's not the case then gentlemen, which was fastest up to intercept? | The Lightning.
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10-05-2008, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by pbfoot where did you get this pearl of wisdom... | From the thread we had two years ago.
The Lightning was proven to be the fastest in the intercept role.
I think it was Lanc that provided the documentation to back up his assertion.
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10-05-2008, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Lucky13 If that's not the case then gentlemen, which was fastest up to intercept? | intercept what and where and how high |
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10-05-2008, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ The Lightning. | do the Brits run faster , how close is the Q to the Rwy, what are the winds are they in limits for a tail wind take off. I don't get how the lightning is faster. Is the pilot chained to the cockpit |
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10-05-2008, 05:23 PM
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| From the moment the engine was started to climb to any altitude, the Lightning had everyone beat by a considerable margin.
And when it came to intercepting a Soviet bomber at sea (I cant remember the range that was specified, but it was around 100 miles or so), the Lightning could still beat out the competition for getting out the fastest, acquire the target regardless of ground control, fire the missle and score a hit.
It was minutes better than the contenders .... F106/Falcon missle, F101/Falcon missle and F14 with Phoniex.
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10-05-2008, 05:24 PM
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I would add the Northrop F-5...
I am the opinion the Fishbed was a far better aircraft than the kill ratio against it suggests.
I would say the Lightning was the best pure point to point interceptor and even holds its own against more contemporary opposition. Useless but fast. |
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10-05-2008, 05:27 PM
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Country: | Wasn't the Falcon missile something of a failure? I think that I read that somewhere that it wasn't as good as it could or should have been, or am I wrong?
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