 | Your favorite post-war aircraft| Post-War Discuss Your favorite post-war aircraft in the Other Eras forums; Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet
Nope they could reach between 2.2 and 2.5 depending on the version. The F-... |
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09-21-2005, 06:19 PM
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#151 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet Nope they could reach between 2.2 and 2.5 depending on the version. The F-18 Hornet can only reach about 1.8, well the earlier versions that is. I dont know about the F-18E. | Is the F-18E supersonic? I read that its engines are non-afterburning. |
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09-21-2005, 07:08 PM
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#152 | | He who does not skim
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Country: | The F-22's engines are non-afterburning too, but it's supersonic. The same probably holds true for the Super Hornet. I'll have to look that up when I get home just to be sure. It would only seem to make sense since it's still a multi-role strike fighter. |
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09-21-2005, 09:03 PM
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#153 | | He who does not skim
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Country: | The F414-GE-400 engines of the F-18E and F's are afterburning after all, but according to at least one source the Super Hornet can't exceed mach 1.0 in level flight below 10,000 feet in full burner! Even with no stores! It would seem that it's been encountering various teething problems.
" An F/A-18E/F in maximum afterburner thrust cannot exceed Mach 1.0 in level flight below 10,000 feet even when it is in the clean configuration (no external stores). "
From: http://www.flightjournal.com/article...8/f14f18_2.asp |
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09-21-2005, 09:46 PM
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Country: | Hmmm...I would have thought it better than that. So much for the "super" part.
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09-22-2005, 02:33 AM
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Country: | I thought the F-22 was after-burning, however it can reach Mach 1 without putting them on - it's called "supercruise".
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09-22-2005, 04:15 AM
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#156 | | He who does not skim
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09-22-2005, 05:27 AM
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#157 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Yeap that is correct it can afterburn but it supercruises also. Great airplane.
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09-22-2005, 12:55 PM
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Country: | Pretty expensive though. At $63 billion for the F-22 program and last I heard they were building only 300 of them, that works out to over $200 million per aircraft. |
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09-23-2005, 04:34 AM
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#159 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Yes the F-22 is a very expensive program but it is a marvelous jet.
__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" |
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09-24-2005, 02:38 AM
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| Post War to Nam? Is that what you are asking for JCS?
Where to start?...
F-86E and the Dog ship too
MiG-17 and 19
F-100
F-102 and F-106
B-36
B-47
B-58
C-133
Mirage III (Anyone else here old enough to remember watching the '67 Six Day War on TV? I remember seeing a Mirage III spinning down in flames and impacting on a valley floor. I don't think the the pilot made it out. It sent chills down my spine.)
Saab 29
A-6
A-1
F2H
F4D Skyray
F4D Phantom II
and on and on and on...
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09-24-2005, 03:39 AM
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| Vanir left? Really? Well I guess he showed this site a thing or two!
Like what an ass he was...is?
I just read his exchange with you FBJ.
He lost me with the "MiG-21 absolutely annhiliates starfighters and dassaults of the day" thing.
Didn't the early MiG-21 have a problem with flame out while pulling g's?
Something about the loss of fuel feed?
Anyway... I won't miss him.
FlyBoy your a class act man.
I have a Question for Plan D.
If the F-14 took off in mile high Denver at the same time the Lightning took off at sea level...JUST KIDDING
JUST KIDDING! 
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09-24-2005, 09:44 AM
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#162 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by F4D Post War to Nam? Is that what you are asking for JCS?
Where to start?...
F-86E and the Dog ship too
MiG-17 and 19
F-100
F-102 and F-106
B-36
B-47
B-58
C-133
Mirage III (Anyone else here old enough to remember watching the '67 Six Day War on TV? I remember seeing a Mirage III spinning down in flames and impacting on a valley floor. I don't think the the pilot made it out. It sent chills down my spine.)
Saab 29
A-6
A-1
F2H
F4D Skyray
F4D Phantom II
and on and on and on... | I always took it, it was about any post war aircraft up to today.
Mine favorites are the F-14, Mig-29, UH-1H, UH-60L, AH-1W, F-16, and the A-10.
__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" |
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09-24-2005, 10:05 AM
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#163 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Originally Posted by F4D Vanir left? Really? Well I guess he showed this site a thing or two!
Like what an ass he was...is?
I just read his exchange with you FBJ.
He lost me with the "MiG-21 absolutely annhiliates starfighters and dassaults of the day" thing.
Didn't the early MiG-21 have a problem with flame out while pulling g's?
Something about the loss of fuel feed?
Anyway... I won't miss him.
FlyBoy your a class act man. | Thank you F4D! I really don't like to exchange like that but when you get a "wanna be" that is so incomprehensibly stupid, I just can't help to speak up!
And to answer your question about the MiG-21 flaming out, I heard the same story. It seems when you load the aircraft up, the fuel control looses efficiency. I've been around a later model MiG-21 BIS and the Russian test pilot we hired to fly it said the MiG-21 had some little "quirks" that could make it a very dangerous aircraft.
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09-24-2005, 10:26 AM
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#164 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | I think most earlier Migs did have quirks like that. Atleast that is what I have read.
__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" |
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09-24-2005, 03:20 PM
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| Cool! 
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