 | Your favorite post-war aircraft| Post-War Discuss Your favorite post-war aircraft in the Other Eras forums; Even with an operational altitude of 50,000 - 55,000 feet, the CF-101B still could not intercept a Bison ... |
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11-04-2005, 10:34 PM
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Country: | Even with an operational altitude of 50,000 - 55,000 feet, the CF-101B still could not intercept a Bison flying at combat height (56,000 feet) nor could it stern intercept a Concorde at 57,000 feet. Fact of the matter is, no NATO interceptor could except the Lightning.
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11-04-2005, 11:21 PM
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| We understand that. We are trying to resolve the issue of why there are two ceilings listed for the F101.
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11-05-2005, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by syscom3 We understand that. We are trying to resolve the issue of why there are two ceilings listed for the F101. | Engines, loading, service ceiling vs. operational ceiling....
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11-05-2005, 10:43 PM
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11-06-2005, 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by pbfoot i'm thinking its just a typo | No, I think the people who put these statistics together sometimes don't realize the difference between things like service ceiling, absolute ceiling, max speed at sea level and max indicated airspeed....
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11-06-2005, 08:01 AM
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Country: | No, I think the people who put these statistics together sometimes don't realize the difference between things like service ceiling, absolute ceiling, max speed at sea level and max indicated airspeed....[/quote]
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11-06-2005, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by pbfoot i'm thinking its just a typo | No, I think the people who put these statistics together sometimes don't realize the difference between things like service ceiling, absolute ceiling, max speed at sea level and max indicated airspeed.... | That I can believe. They see the words cieling and take it like the bible.
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11-06-2005, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by pbfoot i 've filed flight plans for fl410 |  - did you ask them if they were going to Mars?!? 
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11-06-2005, 08:24 PM
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11-10-2005, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by pbfoot i 've filed flight plans for fl410 |  - did you ask them if they were going to Mars?!?  | certainly! with aircrew you can't be to sure |
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11-10-2005, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by pbfoot i 've filed flight plans for fl410 |  - did you ask them if they were going to Mars?!?  | certainly! with aircrew you can't be to sure |  I was flying a T-34 from Point Mugu NAS back to Edwards AFB. The T-34 is an old recip trainer. The controller from Mugu approach probably thought I was in a T-38 and cleared me to FL 30. I told him I'd be lucky to make 10,000 feet (the plane is over 40 years old and had over 10,000 hours on it). He laughed and gave me vectors at 6,000 feet, he said that he should of noticed something when my ground speed never exceeded 125 knots! 
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11-10-2005, 09:03 PM
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11-10-2005, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by pbfoot had a guy transit the zone in comox vancouver island asked altitude stated 6ft it was hovercraft |  Oh that's great!!
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11-11-2005, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by pbfoot had a guy transit the zone in comox vancouver island asked altitude stated 6ft it was hovercraft |  Oh that's great!! | That is a good one pbfoot 
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11-11-2005, 07:55 AM
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Country: | When the tower guys are on there game they can be a life savor. Ill tell you that. We did a routine IFR training flight yesterday. The weather was so bad that the fog never cleared up even at ground level. We did a Coptor Approach and the tower brought us down to the Runway. We could not even see the ground until we were about 20ft over the runway. It was crazy. Lots of fun though.
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