Avenger Help! - Aircraft of World War II

Airframes · 03-02-2009, 03:17 PM

I don't suppose anyone's got the Instruction Sheet for the 1/48th scale 'Accurate Miniatures' Grumman Avenger, have they?
I've just been having a close look at the Italeri kit I bought, to see what might be needed for a FAA machine. This beautiful kit is the Accurate Miniatures kit, under the Italeri label.
BUT! The instruction sheet is abysmal! Apart from being very poorly laid out, with very vague diagrams, some of which don't show where some of the parts actually go, a whole section, or two, have been missed entirely!
The diagrams jump from assembling the interior, to fitting the wings, missing out eveything in between, including what goes where in the fuselage halves, and the joining of the latter!
The gun turret is shown being assembled AFTER the model is virtually complete, and the drawings don't give a clue as to where some of the parts for this are supposed to fit, or how!
Normally, I wouldn't have a problem with a poor, or even missing instruction sheet, but, this is a fairly complex, and highly detailed kit, where it will be important to get all the interior fittings etc in the right place, the rightway round etc.
So, if anybody has, or has built, the Accurate Miniatures vesion, and has the instruction sheet/booklet, I wouldn't mind a copy if possible.
Thanks,
Terry.

Catch22 · 03-02-2009, 03:53 PM

I can't help you, but enjoy the kit! I wanted to get it, but the one at the store disappeared.

lesofprimus · 03-02-2009, 05:28 PM

Wayne may have u covered here Terry.......

Wayne Little · 03-02-2009, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lesofprimus

Wayne may have u covered here Terry.......

Yep you called it right!....I do have one, can scan and send it to you Terry!

lesofprimus · 03-02-2009, 05:59 PM

Haha!!!

109ROAMING · 03-02-2009, 06:05 PM

Clapping hands for Wayne

Airframes · 03-02-2009, 07:07 PM

Brilliant! Marvellous! Fantastic! Great! Splendid! Bl**dy Super!
Thanks very much Wayne!
What a fantastic group this is!
Next question, I've got something I can work off, but anyone got any pics/profiles of British PACIFIC FLEET marked Avengers, as opposed to the SEAC marked ones that moved across from the Indian Ocean, eventually attacking Okinawa and other Japanese areas?
These would have been from FAA Squadrons 849 (Victorious), 857 (Indomitable), 820 (Indefatigable), and 828 (Implacable).
I've got their SEAC schemes, and I've got the PTO scheme for 848 (Formidable).
And, do the SEAC aircraft, which attacked the Japanese oil installations at Palembang, Sumatra, count for the PTO Group Build?

Catch22 · 03-02-2009, 08:16 PM

Terry, I've got some pictures that may be of use, I'll have to look through them.

And yeah, SEAC WAS in the PTO.

Actually Terry, I sent you everything I have a few weeks back.

rochie · 03-03-2009, 02:19 AM

Terry is this the one ?
got it from here http://www.accurate-miniatures.com/support.shtml

Wayne Little · 03-03-2009, 04:52 AM

Your welcome my friend!

I will scan it tomorrow when I get home from work, it is a TBM-3 off USS Bunker Hill.

Airframes · 03-03-2009, 11:56 AM

Thanks Cory and Wayne.
Karl, Step 3 is missing, but the rest is a GREAT help mate, much clearer than the Italeri, the latter being VERY vague.
Wayne, if you've got STEP 3 of the instructions, that's all I now need. Thanks everyone!

Wayne Little · 03-03-2009, 02:55 PM

No worries. Terry

Lucky13 · 03-04-2009, 07:47 AM

Are you referring to Operation Meridian Terry, old chap?

Airframes · 03-04-2009, 08:50 AM

That's one of them old boy. Meridian One and Two, plus the other bombing attacks on the Japanese Islands, and Tokyo itself. Long before that, and apparently not that well known, the FAA Avengers were involved in supporting the US Marines, in the Solomons.
Very educational, these Group Builds!
Until I started looking for something to build, then researching on FAA Avengers, I knew only little, vague bits about the war in the 'Far East', and the Pacific in particular. I had the 'general overview' idea of course, but nothing specific or detailed. One thing I have discovered though, it would seem that the FAA didn't have as many photographs as other allied units!
I also cleared up the point we were discussing a couple of weeks back, about the PTO/SEAC roundels. For whatever reason, the Royal Navy, being 'The Royal Navy', DID have their own version of the SEAC roundel, which was Roundel blue with a plain white centre, as opposed to the SEAC roundel that every other Brit and Commonwealth unit used, Roundel Blue and Light Blue. They also used, in some cases, a thin white outline, which would appear to have been to make the roundel more visible on a dark background.
The Pacific Area roundel had the bars, as per the US insignia, again with a thin white outline around the roundel, although there was also the same with the yellow outline to the roundel - I haven't been able to clarify the period/use/reason for this latter style.

Wayne Little · 03-04-2009, 02:44 PM

E-mailed the extra instructions last night Terry, had some net problems but eventually went through...I hope!

03-02-2009, 03:17 PM	#1
Airframes Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 11,558	Avenger Help! I don't suppose anyone's got the Instruction Sheet for the 1/48th scale 'Accurate Miniatures' Grumman Avenger, have they? I've just been having a close look at the Italeri kit I bought, to see what might be needed for a FAA machine. This beautiful kit is the Accurate Miniatures kit, under the Italeri label. BUT! The instruction sheet is abysmal! Apart from being very poorly laid out, with very vague diagrams, some of which don't show where some of the parts actually go, a whole section, or two, have been missed entirely! The diagrams jump from assembling the interior, to fitting the wings, missing out eveything in between, including what goes where in the fuselage halves, and the joining of the latter! The gun turret is shown being assembled AFTER the model is virtually complete, and the drawings don't give a clue as to where some of the parts for this are supposed to fit, or how! Normally, I wouldn't have a problem with a poor, or even missing instruction sheet, but, this is a fairly complex, and highly detailed kit, where it will be important to get all the interior fittings etc in the right place, the rightway round etc. So, if anybody has, or has built, the Accurate Miniatures vesion, and has the instruction sheet/booklet, I wouldn't mind a copy if possible. Thanks, Terry. __________________

03-02-2009, 03:53 PM	#2
Catch22 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 4,636	I can't help you, but enjoy the kit! I wanted to get it, but the one at the store disappeared. __________________

03-02-2009, 05:28 PM	#3
lesofprimus Minister of Whoopass Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi Posts: 18,465	Wayne may have u covered here Terry....... __________________ My IL2 Video Tribute to My Grandfather: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtzN5RuNNJk My 1/32nd Rendition of His Corsair: http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/2-p...3-a-20416.html

03-02-2009, 05:59 PM	#5
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03-02-2009, 06:05 PM	#6
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03-02-2009, 07:07 PM	#7
Airframes Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 11,558	Brilliant! Marvellous! Fantastic! Great! Splendid! Bl*dy Super! Thanks very much Wayne! What a fantastic group this is! Next question, I've got something I can work off, but anyone got any pics/profiles of British PACIFIC FLEET marked Avengers, as opposed to the SEAC marked ones that moved across from the Indian Ocean, eventually attacking Okinawa and other Japanese areas? These would have been from FAA Squadrons 849 (Victorious), 857 (Indomitable), 820 (Indefatigable), and 828 (Implacable). I've got their SEAC schemes, and I've got the PTO scheme for 848 (Formidable). And, do the SEAC aircraft, which attacked the Japanese oil installations at Palembang, Sumatra, count for the PTO Group Build? __________________ Last edited by Airframes; 03-02-2009 at 07:15 PM.*

03-02-2009, 08:16 PM	#8
Catch22 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 4,636	Terry, I've got some pictures that may be of use, I'll have to look through them. And yeah, SEAC WAS in the PTO. Actually Terry, I sent you everything I have a few weeks back. __________________

03-03-2009, 04:52 AM	#10
Wayne Little Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Adelaide Sth. Aust. Posts: 14,850	Your welcome my friend! I will scan it tomorrow when I get home from work, it is a TBM-3 off USS Bunker Hill. __________________

03-03-2009, 11:56 AM	#11
Airframes Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 11,558	Thanks Cory and Wayne. Karl, Step 3 is missing, but the rest is a GREAT help mate, much clearer than the Italeri, the latter being VERY vague. Wayne, if you've got STEP 3 of the instructions, that's all I now need. Thanks everyone! __________________

03-03-2009, 02:55 PM	#12
Wayne Little Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Adelaide Sth. Aust. Posts: 14,850	No worries. Terry __________________

03-04-2009, 07:47 AM	#13
Lucky13 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A Swede living in Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 17,331	Are you referring to Operation Meridian Terry, old chap? __________________ JAN "Felicis Tredecim" "I´m going back to the front to relax" "THE BLACK CATS FLIES TONIGHT" "Find your enemy and shoot him down - everything else is unimportant!" "When you're out of F-8's... You're out of fighters!"

03-04-2009, 08:50 AM	#14
Airframes Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 11,558	That's one of them old boy. Meridian One and Two, plus the other bombing attacks on the Japanese Islands, and Tokyo itself. Long before that, and apparently not that well known, the FAA Avengers were involved in supporting the US Marines, in the Solomons. Very educational, these Group Builds! Until I started looking for something to build, then researching on FAA Avengers, I knew only little, vague bits about the war in the 'Far East', and the Pacific in particular. I had the 'general overview' idea of course, but nothing specific or detailed. One thing I have discovered though, it would seem that the FAA didn't have as many photographs as other allied units! I also cleared up the point we were discussing a couple of weeks back, about the PTO/SEAC roundels. For whatever reason, the Royal Navy, being 'The Royal Navy', DID have their own version of the SEAC roundel, which was Roundel blue with a plain white centre, as opposed to the SEAC roundel that every other Brit and Commonwealth unit used, Roundel Blue and Light Blue. They also used, in some cases, a thin white outline, which would appear to have been to make the roundel more visible on a dark background. The Pacific Area roundel had the bars, as per the US insignia, again with a thin white outline around the roundel, although there was also the same with the yellow outline to the roundel - I haven't been able to clarify the period/use/reason for this latter style. __________________

03-04-2009, 02:44 PM	#15
Wayne Little Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Adelaide Sth. Aust. Posts: 14,850	E-mailed the extra instructions last night Terry, had some net problems but eventually went through...I hope! __________________

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