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2 British Soldier's Killed in Northern Ireland

SitRep Discuss 2 British Soldier's Killed in Northern Ireland in the Military Matters forums; Very sad to hear, thought we were over and past this a long time ago. Good to see it being ...

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    Thumbs down 2 British Soldier's Killed in Northern Ireland

    Very sad to hear, thought we were over and past this a long time ago. Good to see it being condemned from all sides though.

    2 Soldiers killed whilst collected pizza from outside their barracks. 2 civilians injured (pizza delivery guys). Real IRA claim responsibility.

    Soliders were killed execution-style as they lay on ground in Ulster outside Massereene Barracks, Antrim
    Real IRA says it killed soldiers outside barracks in Antrim
    BBC NEWS | UK | Northern Ireland | 'Real IRA was behind army attack'
    BBC NEWS | UK | Northern Ireland | Antrim shooting: Political reaction



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    you would know better than I but will it ever end ?

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    There will always be those that will use violence to attempt to achieve their aims even if they have no support in the community. There are evidently some of these deluded and crazed people still around and as long as they are I think there will be a small number of similar attacks on an infrequent basis (last British soldier was killed in Northern Ireland in 1997).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Erich View Post
    Gnomey

    you would know better than I but will it ever end ?
    Most people thought it had ended Erich. The saddest part is the warnings had abounded for several months that a Republican attack of this sort was likely, but these warnings were dismissed as scaremongering and being obstructive to peace...

    We must not put the army back out on the streets though. That would undo everything that has been achieved in recent years.
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    nothing but pure bloody murder perpetrated by common criminals who hide behind patriotic ferver and wish to prolong the "troubles" to suit their criminal activities


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    Pretty much rochie. The criminal elements on both sides need to be dealt with, the old Republican/Unionist divide is often just a facade for organised crime these days.
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    totaly agree BombTaxi


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    Aahhh... good Lord. Why must violence always be the solution. My sympathies to the soldiers families. Very unfortunate, unnecessary and ... frankly evil.

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    Expect to see more of this sort of thing. While it may be the IRA now, it is bound to pick up in other places as well. Part of our unsettled economic world. Groups looking for an opportunity to "go active" see now as a good time. These guys are thugs, nothing more. And opportunist as well. Ireland is in the middle of a tough time. And tough times are the best times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timshatz View Post
    Expect to see more of this sort of thing. While it may be the IRA now, it is bound to pick up in other places as well. Part of our unsettled economic world. Groups looking for an opportunity to "go active" see now as a good time. These guys are thugs, nothing more. And opportunist as well. Ireland is in the middle of a tough time. And tough times are the best times.
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    D@@@it, I thought this was all in put behind us. I thought Ireland was moving on to a new, prosperous, future. I mean, I would like to see a united Ireland before I die, but not at this cost. It's freedom fighting, it's plain terrorism. My prayers are with the familes of the two English soldiers.
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    Yeah it's a shame it comes around now, the biggest Irish Holiday, St. Patricks Day. I hope it doesn't become a pattern.

    I have some Irish blood in me, and I wish the troubles in Ireland would cease.

    I now it's not just the Britains fault for being there, the half of Ireland they own has more British inclined people anyway. If they left, bad things could happen. I do think Ireland could survive on it's own, sort of a former commonwealth, like Australia, but I don't think it's going to happen.

    The IRA need to understand this, and stop doing these brutal things.

    Sadly, it does remind you of Iraq, where terrorists destroy the country to get the kind of government they want. I do feel in Iraq the terrorists are a bit stupid, since Obama is pulling most of the troops out the next few years, and the Iraqis will have to take care of themselves.

    Sadly, terrorists like Al Qaeda want a very drastic goverment change, with Sharia Law included and intolerance to "infidels" no doubt. That's even more drastic than what the IRA wants I think.

    Let's hope Scotland stays quiet at least.
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    to the soldiers

    Like the others have said, so much progress has been made and I hope that holds firm.

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    There's always a few bad apples to ruin it for everyone. Hopefully that's all it is....a couple of die-hard holdouts, not a prelim to a resurgence in the violence. My prayers for the families of all those involved.
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    now I've seen everything...retro terrorism.


    PS I don't think it was the "IRA"...it was a splinter group that broke off from the IRA when peace was found.
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