 | British Sailors seized by Iran.| SitRep Discuss British Sailors seized by Iran. in the Military Matters forums; Yeap I saw the video on the German news a few hours ago.
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03-29-2007, 04:43 PM
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#76 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | Yeap I saw the video on the German news a few hours ago.
I dont know what the EU response is going to be but I know that the German Chancellor has stepped up and condemned the incidents and called for the immediate release of the Brits and pledged support (what that support would be I do not know since Germany can not conduct offensive operations such as an invasion or so forth based off the consitution.)
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03-29-2007, 04:44 PM
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#77 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Also this just in, the Iranians have gone back on there pledge to release the female sailor. But Gen. Ali Reza Afshar, Iran's military chief, said that because of the "wrong behavior" by the British government, "the release of a female British soldier has been suspended," the semiofficial Iranian news agency Mehr reported.
Iranian negotiator Ali Larijani also told state television that British leaders "have miscalculated this issue" and if they follow through with threats, the case "may face a legal path" — presumably putting the Britons on trial. Britain takes case against Iran to U.N. - Yahoo! News
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03-29-2007, 04:49 PM
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#78 | | aka Dickcheese
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Country:  | Lord I hate to say this, but the threat of the greater implications of letting Iran run roughshod over the world outweighs the lives...
You can't negotiate with people who do not value human lives. Evil. Pure 4th century inbred evil.
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03-29-2007, 04:51 PM
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#79 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | That I agree with. I too believe that an ultimatum needs to be given and if that ultimatum is not met, let the bombs start falling.
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03-29-2007, 05:03 PM
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#80 | | the old Sage
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Country: | Matt I read your last comments on the last page....this sounds almost like a pure set-up, ah not godd not good at all.
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03-29-2007, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet  That I agree with. I too believe that an ultimatum needs to be given and if that ultimatum is not met, let the bombs start falling. | Agreed. Live by the sword die by the sword.
Invade our country will kill you.
Kidnap our people we kill you.
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03-29-2007, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet I dont know what the EU response is going to be but I know that the German Chancellor has stepped up and condemned the incidents and called for the immediate release of the Brits and pledged support (what that support would be I do not know since Germany can not conduct offensive operations such as an invasion or so forth based off the consitution.) | Great question. Does the EU have any capacity to do anything. Once you get past the RN and the Charles De Gaul, what kind of power projection do they have? And would you get all the countries (27?) on board for this thing? | |
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03-29-2007, 05:17 PM
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#83 | | the old Sage
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Country: | can U imagine f the British govt starts a serious man0hunt in the UK for Iranians
sorry you are within our borders, off with you | |
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03-29-2007, 05:28 PM
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Country: | Tim, you had a post a couple of days ago about the Democrat party in Congress and I thought you hit the nail on the head. Matt, your idea of an ultimatum and then action which is then turned up in intensity if the proper resonse is not received is excellent. It is time to teach the Muslim world how the cow ate the cabbage. As to causing more upheaval in the Middle East, it can't get much worse than it already is. We will pay a price in oil prices but probably only short term. If Blair decides to do the necessary, he will get plenty of support from George W and the devil with the Dems and their Pelosis and her ilk. | |
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03-29-2007, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt308 US (Iraq) is holding 5 Iranian Republican Guards suspected of training/participating in terrorist acts in Iraq. I have not read any specifics other than they were apparently caught red handed.
UK has not missed their window yet. It will take some decent assets and planning (which should have been done already for such a contingency) to put together a proper military response. However, in the mean time the EU is Iran's largest trading partner. Let's see if the EU can provide a consolidated response on behalf of one of their own.  I know. Not likely.
Issue a 24hr ultimatum for release. Failure to comply, kick the Iranian rep out of the country with 5 mins to pack his ****. Simultaneous strikes against all Iranian naval assets and use Tornados loaded with Storm Shadow cruise missiles on port facilities. Then issue another 24hr ultimatum and ignore world pleas for negotiation. | Agree ultimatum NOW.
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03-29-2007, 05:45 PM
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#86 | | the old Sage
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it's time to play "real" hard ball now | |
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03-29-2007, 09:19 PM
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#87 | | "Shooter"
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03-29-2007, 09:37 PM
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#88 | | Senior Member
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Country: | I guess some of the NATO countries should will have to buck up Germany France Belgium and some of our newer buddies if Cruise missles are launched
I don't think we have the assets to deal with another conflict . Canada could and probably would supply air assets and the Navy would be a possibility but the combat arms types would be in short supply
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03-29-2007, 09:56 PM
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#89 | | the old Sage
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Country: | it might be of note : Persia has only 1 working oil refinery. send her an ultimatum if they do not comply then send them back to the stone age ........  | |
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03-30-2007, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Erich it might be of note : Persia has only 1 working oil refinery. send her an ultimatum if they do not comply then send them back to the stone age ........ | Now that would put a hurt on them. And you don't have to make it obvious. A refinery is so technical that knocking it off line with an explosion here or there (nontraceable, of course) would be pretty simple.
Turn up the heat on them.
Good idea Erich, good thinking. | |
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