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Old 06-08-2006, 10:44 AM   #31
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How about Shitehawk?
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Old 06-08-2006, 10:58 AM   #32
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The the X-35 flew the engineers call it "The Screaming Monkey."
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Old 06-08-2006, 11:37 AM   #33
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LOL! We'll see when the first F-35 gets delivered....eventually!

On the X-35's first flight it sucked the gear up and went supersonic. A lot more thought went into that aircraft than the F-22, as a matter of fact the X(F)-35 is just lessons learned from the F-22 in many areas...
Very True! We were often told that something was a problem on the F-22 and we will not do it that way on the F-35! Example: the distance between circuit board cards were reduced for the F-22 in order to get more functionality. This turned out to be VERY expensive due to the inability to use comerical off-the-shelf components (COTS). Every card was a special design for the F-22, even down to the components. The F-35 was expressly required to use a space that was compatable with COTS.
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Old 06-08-2006, 04:46 PM   #34
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Going back to names, If you want to stick with storms no one seems to have mentioned Hurricane or Tempest.
Pretty confident the UK wouldn't disagree.
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Old 06-09-2006, 02:58 AM   #35
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Good 'hard' names... unlike Rafale which I have always thought wimpy.
Gripen is a kind of bird of prey I suppose. So they won't use Griffin for the JSF I suspect.

Tempest would sit nicely alongside Typhoon too.

Though it has modern usage in the proofing against EMP.

One thing the folks like about the Typhoon is its maintainability compared to the Tornado and that was supposed to be pretty good over the Lightning and F4.
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Another twist in the JSF saga:
Israel’s full participation in a U.S.-led advanced warplane project has been held up as both sides hammer out a deal on limiting the transfer of sensitive military technology, a senior Israeli official said on June 8.
The Jewish state’s role in the multi-billion-dollar F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) project was briefly curbed last year after the Pentagon came out against Israeli arms exports to China, which it argued could threaten U.S. ally Taiwan.
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php...7643&C=mideast
Tom Burbage, executive vice president of Lockheed Martin, predicted that F-35s would cost around $46 million each and would be available to foreign partners by 2014. Other estimates put the cost of the fighter-bombers at as much as $100 million.
The Jerusalem Post reported last week that Israel, seeking boosted capabilities in the face of arch-foe Iran’s nuclear program and anticipating delays in the F-35 project, could instead buy a new fleet of the less advanced F-15 warplane.
That'll mean some interesting twists in the name! I like IAF names for western planes - Kurnass, Nesher etc.

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The Jerusalem Post reported last week that Israel, seeking boosted capabilities in the face of arch-foe Iran’s nuclear program and anticipating delays in the F-35 project, could instead buy a new fleet of the less advanced F-15 warplane.
The decision would have to be made quickly. The F-15 production line is set to close in 2010, and once a production line closes (especially a fighter) it doesn't get resurrected very easily.
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Don't worry, we can always sell them some Gripens
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Gripen is a nice plane - saw it once at MAF. Small tho. Since it can launch from the highway maybe it can go from a deck.
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Gripen, meaning Giffin in english, is a mythological creature with the body of a lion and the head & wings of an eagle.

Other Swedish aircraft names are Drakken meaning Dragon (we had that yet?) and Viggen, meaning lightning or thunderbolt, I forget which exactly.

Corsair has already been reused on the A-7 relatively recently.

I think mythical creatures could be quite good, TVR name most of their cars after them.

Chimera
Monster with three heads- a goat, a lion, and a dragon (or serpent) for a tail. The Chimera supposedly breathed fire.

Hydra
A serpent/dragon with multiple heads (generally 7 or 9 heads.)

Serpent (Sea Serpent for Naval versions)

Centaur
Half horse, half man.

Satyr
Half man, Half goat. Bearded, sometimes with horns or goat's ears.

Caladrius
A white bird that can predict if a sick person will live or die. If the person is going to die, the bird will look away; if the person is to live, the bird can draw the sickness into itself and then fly into the air, dispersing it.

Halcyon
A sea bird which lays its eggs on the beach in the middle of winter. During the period when the Halcyon is laying and hatching its eggs, the seas are very calm and there is fine weather. That is where the expression "Halcyon days" comes from.

Peryton
A deer with wings, that casts the shadow of a man. Their feathers might be light blue or dark green.

Pegasus
Pegasus is a flying horse from Greek and Roman mythology. He is generally pictured as white, sometimes with golden wings.

Phoenix
The size of an eagle, with gold plumage around the neck, a purple body, and an azure tail. The throat has a crest, and the head has a tuft of feathers.

Kraken
A generic name for a gigantic sea monster. Sometimes described as a whale, sometimes as a giant squid, sometimes as a giant lobster.

Tetramorph
Described by Ezekiel as having the face of a man, the face of a lion, the face of an ox and the face of an eagle, each with four wings, and the hands of a man under the wings. The tetramorph also had wheels that "turned not when they went", and eyes everywhere.

Cerberus
Cerberus, in Greek mythology, was a 3-headed hound, with a snake for a tail. Alternatively, he is described as having 50 heads, or 3 heads with a mane of snakes. In most pictures though, he appears with 3 heads.

Could even call it the Yeti since you hear a lot about it but noone has seen the damn thing

Or maybe a dinosaur name

Pteranodon, Quetzalcoatlus, Pterodactyl

What about insect names following on from the Hornet, could do Wasp (think this was a helicopter way back when), Bumble Bee (pretty lame), American Killer bee (better), Dragonfly (also done), Tarantula hawk
slightly OT but found this list of most painful insect stings while looking for obscure insects
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schmidt_Sting_Pain_Index

Hope I never meet any bullet ants, ouch!
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Old 06-13-2006, 03:26 AM   #41
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amazing work there R988!

I like the insect theme... Wasp would be good ex this was/is a carrier....?

Meanwhile it seems to me the RN doesn't need the JSF it has more punch than ever... maybe ahead of the yanks when it brings the Apache aboard... wow imagine what those beasties will be able to do!

UK carrier force is readied for strike

By Richard Scott Jane’s Naval Consultant

A decade after the extended carrier roulement off former Yugoslavia came to an end, the character of UK carrier aviation has changed substantially. Perhaps the most telling difference is the accent on delivering a recognisably joint, rather than purely naval, capability.

In the first instance, the Carrier Air Group (CAG) is no more; instead, the CVS-class HMS Invincible now embarks a Tailored Air Group (TAG): an embarked aviation package assembled from suitably configured Fleet Air Arm, Royal Air Force (RAF) and/or Army Air Corps assets to suit a specific operation or campaign. Options for the TAG include the Harrier GR.7/7A ground attack aircraft (with the upgraded GR.9/9A entering service from 2007); the Sea King ASaC.7 airborne surveillance and control helicopter; the Merlin HM.1 maritime helicopter; the Sea King HC.4 medium support helicopter; the Chinook HC.2 support helicopter; and, in the near future, the Apache AH.1 attack helicopter.
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Old 06-13-2006, 08:17 PM   #42
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The the X-35 flew the engineers call it "The Screaming Monkey."

That's the best name I've heard yet.
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Old 06-14-2006, 09:58 AM   #43
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I kinda like Reaper. Cyclone isn't all that bad IMO either. If, IF Canada ever procures the F-35 (stranger things have happened y'know ), we'd have to call it something else because the new Navy helos are already to be called the Cyclone. Hmmm, maybe the Nonskimmer. Yeah!



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nonskimmer? what kind of dumb name for a plane is that? maybe ok for one of the ruskki kranoplanes maybe... tee hee.
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Old 06-17-2006, 04:09 AM   #45
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Maybe they could go further with the anti sub line like Viking or Orion... good 'hard' names. How about Goth or Vandal? There must be a macho name out there which has yet to be used...
Some of the best plane names have not been real words at all - like Thunderchief, Skywarrior or Starfighter and some great planes have never had an official name, like the F-111. Lockheed has some odd choices over the years - like their transports. C130 Hercules is appropriate but Galaxy or Starlifter and a bit dumb.

How about Lockheed 'Overbudget' that would suit just about any military plane!
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