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| "Shooter" ![]() | Fire aboard the USS Washington Quote:
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| Der Crewchief ![]() Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany
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| Wow thankgod everyone is okay! I am interested in hearing why this happened.
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| "Shooter" ![]() | From what I have been able to find out, it looks like it was either along a cable raceway or some duct work, which made it difficult to get at and made it easier to spread. The skipper said that the firefighting efforts were "heroic".
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| Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London
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| One of the lessons the RN learnt in the Falklands was how fast fires can spread along cables. Normal proceedure on board ship with a fire is to contain it, basically ensure all the doors are shut and let it burn itself out which of course takes time. However its easier said than done as the fires can spread along cables and it has been known for a fire to smoulder and then ignite. I believe all RN vessels had all their cables replaced after the Falklands to reduce the smoke generated when they smoulder. Smoke is the big problem and its true to say that when you fight a fire in a compartment you can see absolutely nothing. You navigate by touch and are trained to fight the fire blind. Anyone who fights a fire in these conditions deserves every respect. |
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| aka Dickcheese ![]() Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Washington State
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| Kapton wiring. Burns quickly and fumes are toxic at <1ppm. That is why you have seen Kapton replaced in the aerospace sector over the last 20 years. I'm sure that is exactly what occured with the RN too.
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| Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: FL
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| Amazing how such a modern machine can be so vulnerable. I'm sure they will learn from it. . |
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| Older Than Dirt ![]() Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Virginia Beach, Virginia
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| I've been involved with small fires at sea, usually a paint locker, or some place where combustables are stored. The bad thing about a fire, at sea, is.... you have no place to run to. Charles
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| Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008
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Very glad to hear that the fire will only cost money...And hats off to the firefighters. | |
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| aka Dickcheese ![]() Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Washington State
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| The Swiss Air crash was not directly attributable to Kapton. Rather Kapton was one of many contributors to that tragic accident. The primary cause of that accident was deemed poor development and installation standards of In-Flight Entertainment (IFE) equipment. Quite an eye opener for aircraft manufacturers, operators and regulatory authorities.
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| Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008
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| Yeah, I know it didn't start the fire, but it certainly made it worse. My friend's 11 yr old daughter was on a school field trip about 3 months later, and they found a foot-long piece of human vertebrae on the beach... JL |
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| “Archive” ![]() Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Wisconsin
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| Being a ex naval fighter fighter and machiest mate I got to say a fire at sea is one of your worst night mares. The heat is unbearable even in the fire suits of today. Im just glad no one died from the fire.
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| Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008
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| oh my god as with the rest of you what the hell happend
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| Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008
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| Hey everyone, I was aboard the USS Washington when this fir took place. I never was in there fighting fires myself, as I was injured, and couldn't hold the hose properly. However, it did burn for hours, 14 at least. It started at about 8 am, and they were still calling re-flashes and other fires at 2200. I did see a lot of heroic people, and I'm proud of everyone on that shiop. We had to dramatically change our way of life for that last week out at see, and an already difficul life was made worse... |
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| The Pop-Tart Whisperer ![]() Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: South Jersey, United States
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| Glad you're ok Howie and hope the same for the rest.
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