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Old 02-16-2008, 09:03 AM   #16
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Thanks TO.....wasn't too sure and too lazy to lazy look it up myself.... Here's another question to stir things up a bit.....Does NATO have the same importance today as it had when the Warsaw Pact existed?
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Old 02-16-2008, 06:46 PM   #17
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Same importance? Ask Russia. They view NATO as a serious threat. While at the same time WARSAW PACT has crumbled. Look at Afghanistan. That is a "NATO" force over there. Who would have thunk that in the '80s. And then look at France and her embrace of NATO and other countries investing in materiel for regional conflicts outside of Europe. NATO is a different animal these days.
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Old 02-16-2008, 07:09 PM   #18
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The bombers were probably tracked........at the moment the U.S. can't afford to war with any country especially RUSSIA
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At any moment, any country cannot afford to war with any country.

War is just another step in tough politics.

Don't believe me? Look at history.
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No i Believe you i didn't even say anything..............
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It was only a post B17. Not an accusation nor a critique. Lighten up, dude.
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Well since most of Eastern Europe is part of NATO its a very serious pain in the ass for Russia, especially with U.S. bases so close to them.I believe we have one or 2 bases here, I know for sure they where but I'm not sure if they still are...
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ok haha sorry. Bad Day yesterday........
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Well since most of Eastern Europe is part of NATO its a very serious pain in the ass for Russia, especially with U.S. bases so close to them.I believe we have one or 2 bases here, I know for sure they where but I'm not sure if they still are...
Yes we have opened several training bases in Romania now.
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Yes we have opened several training bases in Romania now.
I'm very happy with those bases...maybe now since we are part of European Union the idiots in charge will fund the army properly because its a complete wreck...
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russia is just trying some crap, hell if you said china , i would get scared, but you figured they did that because of the kosovo independence, but the russians are just hot air, putian needs too be punted in the grion,
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They are not doing this because of Kosovo. They have been doing this again for about the last 4 to 6 months now.
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such low passes can be really dangerous both for the airplane and for carrier:
YouTube - Tu-16 crash after a low pass by aircraft carrier USS Essex

rare footage, still classified in Russia
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such low passes can be really dangerous both for the airplane and for carrier:
YouTube - Tu-16 crash after a low pass by aircraft carrier USS Essex

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What is the VO saying?

It doesnt look like it hit the carrier
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Lots of splices. Who knows what that was.
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