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    Pakistan takes on US choppers

    Miranshah - Pakistani security forces opened fire on two US helicopter gunships which violated Pakistani airspace in a rugged tribal region bordering Afghanistan, local officials said on Monday.

    The incident happened near Lwara Mundi village in the North Waziristan district, where Pakistani forces have been battling Taliban and al-Qaeda militants, they said.

    "Pakistani forces fired at two US gunships which violated Pakistan's airspace and forced them to return to Afghanistan," a local security official told AFP on condition of anonymity.

    Pakistan takes on US choppers: World: News: News24

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    Lol i'd be very careful about who i fire on if i was Pakistan. Doesn't sound like they are making friends over there

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    Interesting.

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    one thing pakistan we have about half the US armor over there so you might want to back off

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddie_brunette View Post
    Miranshah - Pakistani security forces opened fire on two US helicopter gunships which violated Pakistani airspace in a rugged tribal region bordering Afghanistan, local officials said on Monday.

    The incident happened near Lwara Mundi village in the North Waziristan district, where Pakistani forces have been battling Taliban and al-Qaeda militants, they said.

    "Pakistani forces fired at two US gunships which violated Pakistan's airspace and forced them to return to Afghanistan," a local security official told AFP on condition of anonymity.

    Pakistan takes on US choppers: World: News: News24

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    Not too bright on the Pak's part; I wonder if the ROE over there allow us to fire back at our so-called "allies"? If they were AH-64's, I don't think I'd be shooting at them, violation of airspace or not . . . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by fly boy View Post
    one thing pakistan we have about half the US armor over there so you might want to back off
    What would we do if armed aircraft of another country flew into our airspace? Think about it...


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    yeah difference is they KNOW better to fly over to the U.S, they probably did it by accident

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doubl3Ac3 View Post
    yeah difference is they KNOW better to fly over to the U.S, they probably did it by accident
    No they probably were engaging Taliban on the Pakistan side of the border.

    I am all for going after the Taliban (I think Pakistan should be doing more), but we need to work something out with Pakistan instead of just illegally crossing the border.


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    I agree. The US has an image problem at the moment related to not respecting the sovereignty of other countries. The US is powerful at sea, and in the air, but its ground strength is limited.

    In International law there are provisions for "Hot Pursuit" but they are generally not used because the risks of collateral damage are just too great
    Fr President Clemenceau’s speech to the AIF 7th July 1918: “ we expected a great deal of (Australians)… We knew that you would fight a real fight, but we did not know that from the beginning you would astonish the whole continent. I shall go back and say to my countrymen “I have seen the Australians, I have looked in their faces …I know that they will fight alongside of us again until the cause for which we are all fighting is safe for us and for our children”.




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    Imagine...A country defending its own land...how dare they!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet View Post
    No they probably were engaging Taliban on the Pakistan side of the border.

    I am all for going after the Taliban (I think Pakistan should be doing more), but we need to work something out with Pakistan instead of just illegally crossing the border.
    then america complais of mexicans !

    i just think theres too much things illegally done last years isnt ? thats the old machiavelian retoric...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JugBR View Post
    then america complais of mexicans !

    i just think theres too much things illegally done last years isnt ? thats the old machiavelian retoric...
    Don't even attempt to try and compare the two. It is a complete different situation. To try and do so is ignorant!


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    Well I don't approve the action of the pakistan forces as well as those U.S. helicopters. But before firing upon them they should have tried to contact them and warn first. And if they have done that and U.S. helicopters still wouldn't return then they did the right thing. Any country should protect its borders.

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    Look I will put up my two cents worth. Im not familiar with this mexican incident.....but I get the general idea. So often people are critical of US behaviour, and imediately try to portray the US as some kind of evil malevolent regime guilty of the most heinous crimes....what a load of bollocks is my reaction.

    Sure, the US forces are guilty of infractions of the law....people get mishandled, or a bomb gets placed in the wrong place and innocent people might get hurt or even killed....but it is an accident. Compare that with the opponents of the US running around cutting off the heads of innocent people, blowing up 1500 year old religious icons, stoning people to death, disfiguring women for getting a job...tell me, who are the barbarians here???? If you say the Americans...you have got to bew S*hitting me

    I say "thank God for America" Without them a lot of us would be at the mercy of places like Saudi Arabia, or China, or North Korea, or iran. You cant honestly say that we would be better of if those low lifes were in charge????
    Fr President Clemenceau’s speech to the AIF 7th July 1918: “ we expected a great deal of (Australians)… We knew that you would fight a real fight, but we did not know that from the beginning you would astonish the whole continent. I shall go back and say to my countrymen “I have seen the Australians, I have looked in their faces …I know that they will fight alongside of us again until the cause for which we are all fighting is safe for us and for our children”.




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    Quote Originally Posted by parsifal View Post
    Look I will put up my two cents worth. Im not familiar with this mexican incident.....but I get the general idea. So often people are critical of US behaviour, and imediately try to portray the US as some kind of evil malevolent regime guilty of the most heinous crimes....what a load of bollocks is my reaction.

    Sure, the US forces are guilty of infractions of the law....people get mishandled, or a bomb gets placed in the wrong place and innocent people might get hurt or even killed....but it is an accident. Compare that with the opponents of the US running around cutting off the heads of innocent people, blowing up 1500 year old religious icons, stoning people to death, disfiguring women for getting a job...tell me, who are the barbarians here???? If you say the Americans...you have got to bew S*hitting me

    I say "thank God for America" Without them a lot of us would be at the mercy of places like Saudi Arabia, or China, or North Korea, or iran. You cant honestly say that we would be better of if those low lifes were in charge????
    Agreed and thank you for being someone who has intelligence.


    fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"

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