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Old 05-19-2005, 05:07 PM   #16
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The British are some times bloody hilarious at secrets at Kelvedon Hatch, Essex in the middle of a woods is a nuclear control bunker at the height of the cold war when the Cuban crisis loomed and the Kennedy and Khrushchev got as close as at any time to pressing the button
every one in my town knew that this so called secret command centre existed either that or there was was one hell of a load of service personnel going for long walks in the middle of a forest.(dirty little devils)
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Old 05-19-2005, 06:26 PM   #17
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I've been there! It's fun! The best time to visit is mid week when it's quiet. Very spooky!
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We do fail in some places with hiding such things. I don't think they ever wanted to hide the fact that RAF Finningley was a nuclear bomber base though.

I do know where there's a nuclear weapons storage site but I don't know whether it's still in use or not. It's quite remarkably well hidden, I only know about it now because they don't care about people knowing about it. It just looks like a field, with a few trees here and there. What gives it away though is a guardhouse with armed guards...

"Why are you guarding that field?"

"Because the Queen likes it..."
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Old 05-19-2005, 06:41 PM   #19
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Yeah, if it's the one I'm thinking of, it's in either Berkshire or Wiltshire somewhere off the M4 - there's a sign with 'Work units only' by the turn off.
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Old 05-19-2005, 06:51 PM   #20
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Heres another secret I saw a Duxford today a piece of Sadams secret super gun disguised as an oil pipe all I can say is it must have been a bleeding huge pump to need a pipe this thick (what the hell was MI5 doing not recognising that this was a bit suspect)
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Old 05-19-2005, 07:08 PM   #21
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All for naught, as even if it had been set up, it would have stuck out like a whore in church on a satellite image.
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Old 05-19-2005, 09:35 PM   #22
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That's one of the guns that Gerald Bull was developing, right?
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Old 05-20-2005, 03:57 AM   #23
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As far as I remember, it was a company called Matrix Churchill.
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Old 05-22-2005, 02:15 PM   #24
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Where did the design come from originally, I know it was not Iraqs?
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One way or another people in the Coalition nations created it.

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/iraq/other/supergun.htm

What I can't understand is how Matrix Churchill honestly thought they'd get away with it, and how the Iraqis imagined that having built the gun, how they were going to hide it from the West - most notable the Israelis, who would simply launch an air strike to blow it up.
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That's one of the guns that Gerald Bull was developing, right?
thats right Evan not long after he got started on the project Mosad topped him he did a lot of development work using two navel 15inch guns linked end to end
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It is difficult sometimes to decide what exactly is deadly equipment and what isn't. I can remember going to a website where they talked about keyring knives and all sorts of things. The mundane can hide a deadly secret. Also if you look at most oil field pictures, the pipe pictured looks to be roughly the right size for use at a high-capacity oil-field. Also, the pieces were probably being shipped separately and in different lots. Guns can apparently be mail-order from certain websites. Although that is not something to be encouraged, it rather gets across the picture I am painting of dangerous or innocent object?
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I just dont see how anyone could hide such a thing. It was quite obvious what it was. The other thing is WHY? There are so many better, more accurate, cheaper, and better concealable weapons out there.
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Saddam wanted a very, very big gun - maybe there was some kinda compensating thing going on there?
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Old 06-01-2005, 06:57 PM   #30
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Must have been little penis syndrome.
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