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ToughOmbre · 04-08-2009, 02:35 PM

Latest from FOX....

Pirates are off the ship in a lifeboat, but are holding the captain and another crewman as hostages.

USS Bainbridge is on her way to the area.

TO

BombTaxi · 04-08-2009, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by timshatz

Heard they just grabbed a US Flagged ship with 20 American citizens onboard. Send in the SEALS.

1. Save the Crew
2. Save the Ship
3. Dump the pirate remains overboard.

That's pretty much the mission goals for those guys.

As for all those Navies working together, it doesn't strike me as odd. Though Govts come and go, Naval Personel tend to be pretty proffesional and long lasting. They usually try to stay out of politics and develop standard operating procedures to avoid running into each other in a bad way. Usually get along well.

As long as you keep the Pakistani and Indian Units seperated. Probably the same for the Iranians and everyone else but the Russians. Let the Ruskies bother with 'em.

Why separate the Iranians, aren't they allowed to do their but alongside the US and her allies? Otherwise agree with all sentiments expressed here...

RabidAlien · 04-08-2009, 03:01 PM

Q-ships....right on! As for the crew taking the ship back...Maersk should give them all a raise and an open bar-tab. And some hard-core hand-to-hand combat training.

Maybe this'll show up as a movie sometime soon, Lord knows Hollywood is out of ideas for new stuff. Or maybe a new FPS, Call of Duty-style!!!

Prayers are still with the Skipper and crewman...prayin that at least one of the pirates has more than half a braincell between his ears...

Amsel · 04-08-2009, 03:01 PM

This is a new frontier for PMC's to get more involved in getting contracts to defend maritime activities in pirate infested areas. It has to suck to have to battle thugs with AK-47's with firehoses.

Amsel · 04-08-2009, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BombTaxi

Why separate the Iranians, aren't they allowed to do their but alongside the US and her allies? Otherwise agree with all sentiments expressed here...

We don't get along very well with Iran would be the main point I think he was making. Common sense.

BombTaxi · 04-08-2009, 03:07 PM

On the contrary, isn't working with the Iranians a potentially sound step toward rapprochement and avoiding the need for yet another costly Middle Eastern war? Or has the US already decided to have that war anyways?

Amsel · 04-08-2009, 03:18 PM

War is sometimes needed especially to stop fascism even if it is Islamo-fascism. If Iran want's nukes I think they can expect war and not just from us but the entire civilized world.

Vassili Zaitzev · 04-08-2009, 03:35 PM

Yeah Comiso, Q-ships sounds just what we need now.

BombTaxi · 04-08-2009, 03:41 PM

We will have to agree to disagree on the 'necessity' of this war. I accept it is a possibility, even a probability, but I don't see it as being inevitable. I think that for all of Iran's undoubted threat, there are gesture's like this one, and the talks with the US some weeks back, which show a willingness to engage and offer a possible starting point for dialogue. I also think that certain elements in US politics and society are attempting to ignore these admittedly small and faint opportunities at all costs, and pushing ahead with a war that was planned out and decided upon long ago. Indeed, by refusing to engage with Iran, they are making the war a self-fulfilling prophecy...

timshatz · 04-08-2009, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Amsel

We don't get along very well with Iran would be the main point I think he was making. Common sense.

Yeah, that was the point I was making. They tend to iritate a lot of people. Seem to get along well with the Russians though. Put them in with them to work along side them. Probably make everyone happy.

timshatz · 04-08-2009, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BombTaxi

We will have to agree to disagree on the 'necessity' of this war. I accept it is a possibility, even a probability, but I don't see it as being inevitable. I think that for all of Iran's undoubted threat, there are gesture's like this one, and the talks with the US some weeks back, which show a willingness to engage and offer a possible starting point for dialogue. I also think that certain elements in US politics and society are attempting to ignore these admittedly small and faint opportunities at all costs, and pushing ahead with a war that was planned out and decided upon long ago. Indeed, by refusing to engage with Iran, they are making the war a self-fulfilling prophecy...

What are you talking about? We've done nothing but talk to them for years. That and the odd embargo. But nobody is going to war with Iran. They are going to get the bomb and the middle east is going to get that much more unstable. The US is not going to invade anybody over owning a nuke. But it will be more common for others in the middle east to want one. And that is probably going to happen.

The countries in the middle east aren't particularly worried about the Israelis having a nuke, they've had one for decades. No problem. But the Iranians are making them nervous. An Iranian Nuke gives power to a people with a long history of running the show in the middle east. The West has a tendency to come and go in the middle east and the Arabs know it. But the Iranians (Aka, the Persians of Antiquity) have been around a lot longer, been in control of that area way longer and kind of look at the middle east as their own back yard.

Bush is gone and the US is not going to do anymore than the UN minimum until mushrooms sprout somewhere.

comiso90 · 04-08-2009, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Vassili Zaitzev

Yeah Comiso, Q-ships sounds just what we need now.

it would be easy to do... an old rust bucket with hidden armaments would mow em down.

hell....

They could charge admission for "Pirate Suppression Cruises"..

2 week cruise:
$1000 and you get a .50 or MK24
$3000 you get a mini gun or 40 mm

GET SOME!!!!!
.

Marshall_Stack · 04-08-2009, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comiso90

it would be easy to do... an old rust bucket with hidden armaments would mow em down.

hell....

They could charge admission for "Pirate Suppression Cruises"..

2 week cruise:
$1000 and you get a .50 or MK24
$3000 you get a mini gun or 40 mm

GET SOME!!!!!
.

Not bad, not bad...

How about we really humiliate them with Girl Scouts firing potato launchers? They could put a notch in their PVC cannon for every loser they kill.

Vassili Zaitzev · 04-08-2009, 04:12 PM

All good ideas on Q-ships. I think maybe have marines disguised as sailors, armed with MG's and LAWs.

Marshall_Stack · 04-08-2009, 04:15 PM

Pardon me for reiterating part of a previous post, but I think we could defend against the pirates by catapulting pork chops, used tampons, and Madonna CDs.

BTW, these pirates have no flair for fashion. They aren't like the cool pirates of the past that had a patch over their eye, a parrot on their shoulder, and say stuff like "aarghh Matee".

04-08-2009, 02:35 PM	#31
ToughOmbre Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Jersey Shore Posts: 3,533	Latest from FOX.... Pirates are off the ship in a lifeboat, but are holding the captain and another crewman as hostages. USS Bainbridge is on her way to the area. TO __________________ *“Let's get Enterprise* and Hornet turned into the wind."**

04-08-2009, 03:01 PM	#33
RabidAlien Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Hurst, Texas Posts: 3,474	Q-ships....right on! As for the crew taking the ship back...Maersk should give them all a raise and an open bar-tab. And some hard-core hand-to-hand combat training. Maybe this'll show up as a movie sometime soon, Lord knows Hollywood is out of ideas for new stuff. Or maybe a new FPS, Call of Duty-style!!! Prayers are still with the Skipper and crewman...prayin that at least one of the pirates has more than half a braincell between his ears... __________________ Pillage, then burn. Argue not with dragons, for thou art crunchy and go well on toast.

04-08-2009, 03:01 PM	#34
Amsel Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,860	This is a new frontier for PMC's to get more involved in getting contracts to defend maritime activities in pirate infested areas. It has to suck to have to battle thugs with AK-47's with firehoses. __________________

04-08-2009, 03:07 PM	#36
BombTaxi Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Brownhills, W. Mids, UK Posts: 1,189	On the contrary, isn't working with the Iranians a potentially sound step toward rapprochement and avoiding the need for yet another costly Middle Eastern war? Or has the US already decided to have that war anyways? __________________ Good generals think about tactics. Great generals think about logistics. "If freedom is to be saved and enlarged, poverty must be ended. There is no other solution." - Nye Bevan "Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to ask for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee" - John Donne, Meditation XVII

04-08-2009, 03:18 PM	#37
Amsel Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,860	War is sometimes needed especially to stop fascism even if it is Islamo-fascism. If Iran want's nukes I think they can expect war and not just from us but the entire civilized world. __________________

04-08-2009, 03:35 PM	#38
Vassili Zaitzev Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Stafford Springs, Connecticut Posts: 2,482	Yeah Comiso, Q-ships sounds just what we need now. __________________ "Never was so much owed by so many to so few"- Winston Churchill.

04-08-2009, 03:41 PM	#39
BombTaxi Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Brownhills, W. Mids, UK Posts: 1,189	We will have to agree to disagree on the 'necessity' of this war. I accept it is a possibility, even a probability, but I don't see it as being inevitable. I think that for all of Iran's undoubted threat, there are gesture's like this one, and the talks with the US some weeks back, which show a willingness to engage and offer a possible starting point for dialogue. I also think that certain elements in US politics and society are attempting to ignore these admittedly small and faint opportunities at all costs, and pushing ahead with a war that was planned out and decided upon long ago. Indeed, by refusing to engage with Iran, they are making the war a self-fulfilling prophecy... __________________ Good generals think about tactics. Great generals think about logistics. "If freedom is to be saved and enlarged, poverty must be ended. There is no other solution." - Nye Bevan "Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to ask for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee" - John Donne, Meditation XVII

04-08-2009, 04:12 PM	#44
Vassili Zaitzev Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Stafford Springs, Connecticut Posts: 2,482	All good ideas on Q-ships. I think maybe have marines disguised as sailors, armed with MG's and LAWs. __________________ "Never was so much owed by so many to so few"- Winston Churchill.

04-08-2009, 04:15 PM	#45
Marshall_Stack Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Missouri Posts: 387	Pardon me for reiterating part of a previous post, but I think we could defend against the pirates by catapulting pork chops, used tampons, and Madonna CDs. BTW, these pirates have no flair for fashion. They aren't like the cool pirates of the past that had a patch over their eye, a parrot on their shoulder, and say stuff like "aarghh Matee".

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