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Burmese Bandit · 10-07-2009, 12:29 PM

Let me put in my 2 cents.

I do not think there will be a third world 'war' but I believe that the FIRST WORLD CONFLICT may have already begun.

The detailed background is far too long to give her. I will simply say that those who have read Professor Philip Chase Bobbit's two books, 'The Shield of Achilles' and 'Terror and Consent' will know what I am talking about.

The premise is simple. As the world grows more globalized and evolves into different forms of the 'market state' conflicts that previously happened BETWEEN nations now will happen WITHIN nations.

Thus in the future I do not see nations squaring off against nations. I do, however, see TRANSNATIONAL IDEOLOGICAL GROUPS fighting global wars WITHIN nations.

Think about that. forum members. Think long and deep, for I strongly suspect you will see this in your lifetimes.

Colin1 · 10-07-2009, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Burmese Bandit

The premise is simple. As the world grows more globalized and evolves into different forms of the 'market state' conflicts that previously happened BETWEEN nations now will happen WITHIN nations.

Thus in the future I do not see nations squaring off against nations. I do, however, see TRANSNATIONAL IDEOLOGICAL GROUPS fighting global wars WITHIN nations.

Think about that. forum members. Think long and deep, for I strongly suspect you will see this in your lifetimes.

It might be
but I'm still not sure what you mean. The only intra-national conflict that I can think of related to market state would be some radical polarisation of rich vs poor; are you suggesting some modern-day October Revolution?

That second sentence, not sure what's going on there. I don't wish to sound demeaning, but what do you mean?

You haven't convinced me that the biggest threat to world security/stability ISN'T fundamentalist terrorism and esp fundamentalist terrorism where it borders a not-as-stable-as-we'd-like nuclear power. For good measure, throw in a couple of wannabee mad-dogs who are seeking nuclear power.

PJay · 10-07-2009, 04:03 PM

Hopefully WW3 will be a damn sight smaller than WW1 and WW2. And not fought in Europe.

Colin1 · 10-07-2009, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PJay

Hopefully WW3 will be a damn sight smaller than WW1 and WW2. And not fought in Europe.

Do they do small world wars?

If it's not fought in Europe, technically, is that still a world war? It's difficult to envisage Europe ducking any world war under current circumstances. Unfortunately, it's the European flavour of 'Western infidel' that is geographically attached to potential troublemakers so it's a small step to assume that that's probably what they're going to strike at.
They will likely attempt to strike at the US flavour with further inland terrorist attacks and may conceivably succeed but it would be devilishly difficult post-9/11. Any attempt at territorial incursion would be laughably stupid.
Using the term 'Western infidel' makes it seem easy to see where I'm pointing the finger, to be honest, it's difficult to put a face or a shape or a form to any potential aggressor on a world scale, I've really got no idea who it could be but I have a strong feeling fundamentalist terrorism would play a leading role.

Flyboy2 · 10-07-2009, 10:32 PM

You know its interesting but I remember reading something were a history professor stated that the Cold War was in fact World War III because for the most part the whole world was effected by it and/or participated in it. He used the fact that World War I wasn't called a world war until after the fact to state that in the future we could see the Cold War being known as World War III. I thought it was an interesting point and definately made alot of sense. I lost him however when he stated that the "War on Terror" is World War IV because most of the world is in some way involved in it. Just some interesting theories.

Of course, Einstein did say "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones"

javlin · 10-10-2009, 09:32 PM

Thus in the future I do not see nations squaring off against nations. I do, however, see TRANSNATIONAL IDEOLOGICAL GROUPS fighting global wars WITHIN nations.

I could see that morso than a global conflict myself.A confliction of ideals of a direction of government already prevails in this country and I am sure in others as well?

10-07-2009, 04:03 PM	#18
PJay Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: London UK Posts: 49	Hopefully WW3 will be a damn sight smaller than WW1 and WW2. And not fought in Europe. __________________ These are my principles, if you don't like them I have others. (Groucho Marx) 'A L'Eau C'est L'Heure!' French Navy Motto

10-10-2009, 09:32 PM	#21
javlin Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: MS Posts: 800	Thus in the future I do not see nations squaring off against nations. I do, however, see TRANSNATIONAL IDEOLOGICAL GROUPS fighting global wars WITHIN nations. I could see that morso than a global conflict myself.A confliction of ideals of a direction of government already prevails in this country and I am sure in others as well? __________________ There is no "overkill". There is only "open fire" and "I need to reload". A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go. "We don't want war. Nor will we tolerate slavery." "A free man would rather die on his feet than live on his knees."

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10-07-2009, 12:29 PM	#16
Burmese Bandit Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 475	Let me put in my 2 cents. I do not think there will be a third world 'war' but I believe that the FIRST WORLD CONFLICT may have already begun. The detailed background is far too long to give her. I will simply say that those who have read Professor Philip Chase Bobbit's two books, 'The Shield of Achilles' and 'Terror and Consent' will know what I am talking about. The premise is simple. As the world grows more globalized and evolves into different forms of the 'market state' conflicts that previously happened BETWEEN nations now will happen WITHIN nations. Thus in the future I do not see nations squaring off against nations. I do, however, see TRANSNATIONAL IDEOLOGICAL GROUPS fighting global wars WITHIN nations. Think about that. forum members. Think long and deep, for I strongly suspect you will see this in your lifetimes.

10-07-2009, 10:32 PM	#20
Flyboy2 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 651	You know its interesting but I remember reading something were a history professor stated that the Cold War was in fact World War III because for the most part the whole world was effected by it and/or participated in it. He used the fact that World War I wasn't called a world war until after the fact to state that in the future we could see the Cold War being known as World War III. I thought it was an interesting point and definately made alot of sense. I lost him however when he stated that the "War on Terror" is World War IV because most of the world is in some way involved in it. Just some interesting theories. Of course, Einstein did say "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones"