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Old 12-09-2007, 04:34 AM   #1
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The city is selling a 53-acre parcel once considered for a stadium to a firm planning to build shops, hotels and office towers.

By Dave McKibben, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
December 6, 2007

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Scratch another city off the list of possible homes for an NFL team in Southern California.

A week after Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa said the Memorial Coliseum is "no longer a viable option," Anaheim officials said much the same about a large chunk of city-owned land in the Angel Stadium parking lot.


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"The NFL's train has left," Anaheim Councilwoman Lucille Kring said. "It would cost the taxpayers too much money, and the return on the investment does not warrant it. This city has learned to live without a football team since the Rams left years ago. I'd rather make a concerted effort to get an NBA team."

Anaheim is expected to officially bow out of the National Football League sweepstakes in a few months when it sells the 53-acre stadium site to Archstone-Smith and Hines, which plans to build shops, hotels and office towers. The developer has reportedly offered the city more than $150 million, three times what an NFL team would pay to build a stadium in the Platinum Triangle -- a sprouting urban village where about 9,000 homes are planned within 10 years.

"It's a completely dead issue with us," Anaheim Councilman Harry Sidhu said. "If there's any chance of this coming back, it'll have to be in discussions with Archstone and the NFL."

Archstone officials declined to say whether they would be interested in continuing to negotiate with the NFL once they purchase the land, but one of the company's plans incorporates an NFL stadium.

Brian McCarthy, an NFL spokesman, also declined comment. A little more than two years ago, Anaheim was a serious player in the NFL stadium derby with the Coliseum, the Rose Bowl and Carson. At a news conference in May 2005, the city presented a lavish plan to create a broad, tree-lined boulevard to link Anaheim's emerging downtown to the Disney resorts three miles away.

But plans for that boulevard quickly died, and Anaheim council members began questioning the wisdom of selling valuable city land at a discounted price to the NFL.

Then late last year, as the NFL's estimate for the cost of building a stadium topped $1 billion, Anaheim began to cool to the idea as potential team owners shied away from the ballooning price tag.

In May, the city gave exclusive development rights to Archstone.

Pasadena and Carson bowed out of the running more than two years ago.

Pasadena didn't have the political support for a team, and Carson abandoned the NFL plan in favor of other opportunities. Over the summer, the league told Los Angeles Coliseum officials that placing a team there wasn't feasible.

Millionaire Ed Roski is working on a stadium proposal in the City of Industry and met last month with NFL executives about that project.

A strong sign that Anaheim is pulling away from the NFL is the cool relationship the parties have had recently. Anaheim Mayor Curt Pringle, the council's leading proponent of a pro football stadium, said he had not spoken with the league in almost a year.

"I'm less inclined to go out and solicit them," he said. "They came to us when they saw the opportunity here."

The land deal with Archstone will probably be finalized by early next year, Pringle said.

"As we make decisions, we're closing off opportunities on the land," he said. "Archstone has the ability to keep the NFL stadium alive. Will they? Probably not. It doesn't maximize their return."

Once the land on the outskirts of the Angel Stadium parking lot is off the table, Pringle said, there would be few, if any, places to build an NFL stadium in Anaheim. The only two large parcels left in the city are privately held: a 103-acre site on La Palma Avenue, where Boeing is phasing out its operation, and a prime chunk of strawberry fields down Harbor Boulevard from Disneyland that is the designated site of a third park.

Within the last week, the Boeing parcel went into escrow with a developer who wants to build office space on the site.

Disney bought the farming property about 10 years ago, but company officials have not disclosed specific plans for the parcel.

Sidhu, who was the first council member to oppose a possible NFL land deal, said the city was looking for more of an "economic generator" than a stadium.

"The NFL has not made an offer that has excited the city," he said. "These stadium deals only work where a city needs more excitement. We don't need it, we have enough tourist attractions and a baseball team and hockey team. If the NFL wants to go and steal from the taxpayer and get richer, they can go to some small town."
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The final statement by the council member says it all. "If the NFL wants to go and steal from the taxpayer and get richer, they can go to some small town." It is obvious that Anaheim was never serious about an NFL team. It is ridiculous how much greed has gone into all of this and personally, I am tired of hearing about it.

I know there were some football fans that actually thought the LA/Orange county area would have a football team again but I knew once city councils, mayor and developers starting talking about it, that would be the end of it.
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....It is obvious that Anaheim was never serious about an NFL team. .....
They were very serious about it. They already had the EIR's prepared, and as a bonus, the whole area was already zoned for this type of development. And in a rarity for California, there already was AMTRAK and Metrorail service here!

Anaheim, played fairly and aggressively with the NFL.

But in the end, the NFL thought they could squeeze more money out of the taxpayers. And now they for all practical purposes, have lost the 2nd largest media marker in the US for another decade or more.

Quite literally, their only hopes are for a stadium to be built (as proposed by Al Davis 20 years ago) in one of the gravel pits in Irwindale!
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Some were serious about it, then human greed kicked in. Having zoning and plans doesn't necessarily indicate seriousness of public officials to a project. When the money talk starts, many will bail. Too few people cared, or it would have been a priority to the local politicians.
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Some were serious about it, then human greed kicked in. Having zoning and plans doesn't necessarily indicate seriousness of public officials to a project. When the money talk starts, many will bail. Too few people cared, or it would have been a priority to the local politicians.
The money was already there. Anaheim said the moment they had a contract, they would begin stadium construction at the existing "Big A". The money was there, the land was ready, the reports were signed and accepted. But the NFL balked and lost out.
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