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Old 06-17-2008, 04:16 PM   #16
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Im not in a hurry to camp over 9500 feet. I’ve had altitude sickness twice (no, there wasn’t booze involved) and felt like I was going to die. I’m addicted to a nice fire, and as u mentioned, there are regulations prohibiting fires at higher altitudes. We played it by the book and secured a wilderness permit! I know I’m missing out on some great scenery; I’ll have to give it another shot someday

We had pasta and sausage on this trip… VERY tasty….
For lunch, tuna sandwiches in pita bread

Does pre-cooked shrimp keep well? That sounds great.

Maybe before my next trip, I’ll PM you for some more specific suggestions.

I’m surprised at the number of mylar, toy balloons I’ve ran across in the backcountry.

Post some pics!
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Old 06-17-2008, 04:17 PM   #17
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Yes, but only in south ( Tatra Mountains Tatra Mountains - Holiday Poland) and in north ( Lake District http://holidays.staypoland.com/mazury-lakes.aspx). Very nice places for holidays...
Beautiful... is it heavily used?

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Old 06-17-2008, 04:29 PM   #18
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sounds liek you are already there with the altitude, sometimes it takes up to a week to get fully aclimated, one reason why when climbing from 7-14,000 feet we take a minimum of 3-4 days to get accustomed or ...you know the results, headache, no appetite, vomit everywhere, disiness like no-ones business, yeah I've done it in my younger years but got smart real fast. Again it also depends alot on what your food/drink intake is, taking an aspirin daily at least 1 week before you go aobve 7,000 feet since most of us are flat-landers whether we want to be or not.

as to Shrimp we have tried both bagged and in can form. the latter works the best, small round cans of shrimp and or crab, calms and dump it in with pasta an d white sauce accompanied by some nice white rolls and butter..............ah heaven ! and the carbo load will keep you going at the high extremes.
Do you like ritz or wheat thins crackers and cream cheese ? another energy booster along with nice warm apple cider. I had this on the summit of Mt. Hood some 25 years ago at over 11,000 ft with 3 unknowns from Colorado their first time to the Oregon Cascades, it was 6am, no-one but us on the summit, pristine clear, Columbia river was gold, the Mt. St. Helens and Adams, Rainier where glowing with the morning apline sunrise and we ate in style and had so much energy we nearly ran off the summit and dropped 2,ooo ft below we were so loaded with energy.

at present our first night we do a mexi-type salad and it is very filling to say the least. everything is premixed with a light oil-vinegar dressing to keep it all moist with the long hike in, then pull it out fluff it a little, you can even warm it slightly - steamed and then bring on the white or corn tortillas and look out ......... let the party begin !!

hey give me a buzz I have plenty of meals, in fact somewhere stashed is 9 days worth. Obviously heading up in the higher terrain one needs to keep in mind what is going to be bothersome to your insides and trying suitable dishes at lower elevation is a must before tyring this up in thinner air.
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>>you know the results, headache, no appetite, vomit everywhere, disiness like no-ones business,

YES! miserable! Followed by intense drowsinesses and sleep.... TERRIBLE. Drinking a a lot of water helps too.

I never heard of the asprin trick... does it build red blood cells?

the mex salad sounds great
It's amazing how good the food can taste.
A tube of peanut butter and honey is a nice boost too.

What kind of stove do you use? I prefer the MSR whisperlight with white gas.

Do u use a water pump? Tablets? Skim?
I use a Pur filter but I have friends that do nothing but skim and have had no problems.

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Aspiring helps not to restrict Brain veins literally and that is what happens we have folk nearly go comotose on us on Mt. Shasta as they were not prepared for the fastness of the ascent and were not in shape to tackle the Mtn.

have used all the MSR stoves, one I cannot remember acted like a freight train but was the bst for steaming food and that is a definate plus on windy cold outings in winter, fall as i do this all eyar when I am able. Butane and propane are almost a joke though we have even used the cheap colemans at over 9,000 ft sputtering and taking forever in a day just to heat up soup - and that is a must as well, onion soup and crackers or small pieces of whole grain bread covered in PP and J.

we have used all sorts of tablets from the 60's onward in the high country though we never really needed it until the crazy 1970's when i got back from overseas, yes several different type of filter systems from pump to self contained enclosure models but we normally get above animals and humans and make sure we are close to a good source of rapid water run-off over clean, non-fungused rocks, we have never had a prob with Giardi or red fungus caused by standing water and snowmelt. One of your probs you will face with deer/bear in the country and too many humans is you will not get away from un-clean water sources. Will tell you I have had Giardi crap while in the mid-east and can say with authority it is nothing you will laugh at, I did think at one point I was going to die........... ~ plus hanging up your food or renting from the F.S. one or more of the big boy bear cannisters. even if your intent with a large group and using mule/horse-stock-packers is that it is required and you will pay hefty fees to use one for a week long adventure.........yes it sucks so reason enough to go back with a small group and go light
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Beautiful... is it heavily used?

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Oh, yes! But if you are looking for wilderness, Poland have a special offer -
wildest mountains in all Europe: Bieszczady Mountains - Holiday Poland

The Bieszczady Mountains: Countrygoer Guide
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Oh, yes! But if you are looking for wilderness, Poland have a special offer -
wildest mountains in all Europe: Bieszczady Mountains - Holiday Poland

The Bieszczady Mountains: Countrygoer Guide
Very nice! I think you should go and send us some pics! I'm sure the history of that area is more rich and diverse then our mountains. Other then a few native americans, loggers and miners, not much of not has happened in the Sierras.
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Comiso, If you are interesting in Biszczady countryside...here it is:
Bieszczady - zdjcia na FotoForum | Gazeta.pl
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Looks beautiful... I hope I can go someday..

DerAdler, Erich and I cant be the only Backpackers!

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Looks beautiful... I hope I can go someday..

DerAdler, Erich and I cant be the only Backpackers!

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I'm sorry V2... You contributed some great places but you've never said that you've backpacked. Have you camped in those places?

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