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Old 08-18-2009, 06:48 PM   #46
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Couple things about Brett.....

Always liked him, no doubt about it, he's a Hall of Famer.

Liked his "gunslinger" mentality.

I can name ten (10) all-time QBs better than him (in no specific order).....

Unitas
Starr
Montana
Brady
Bradshaw
Aikman
Manning (Peyton)
Staubach
Elway
Marino

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I like your list but reminded another couple of thousand QB's played over the years. Adding him to that list just makes it easy to get number 11 and not ever be disappointed for the next 10-15 years. I would have a hard time rationalizing arguing for any one of the (11) over another one. And somewhere Otto Graham, Norm Van Brocklin, Sammy Baugh and Bob Waterfield has to slip into the subconscious

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Old 08-18-2009, 07:25 PM   #47
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And somewhere Otto Graham, Norm Van Brocklin, Sammy Baugh and Bob Waterfield has to slip into the subconscious
All good ones for sure. They were before my time with one exception. I did see Norm Van Brocklin's last game when he became the only QB to defeat a Lombardi coached Packer team in an NFL championship game.

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Old 08-18-2009, 11:41 PM   #48
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I just thought of something else.
I bet EA Sports is really ticked right about now.


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Old 08-19-2009, 08:54 AM   #49
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I think Madden Football has already anounced and upgrade to Madden 2009 that will include Favre. I wonder if it will have a on/off Retirement button on Favre's options? Press B once to retire, twice to un-retire
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Old 08-19-2009, 11:48 AM   #50
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I like it.
If you push it over and over again you will get the same effect as real life.
Just be careful not to push it too fast or you might get confused whether your retired or not.
Oh wait, that's just like real life.
That will work then too.


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Old 08-19-2009, 12:17 PM   #51
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$12,000,000 from the Vikes.

Guess I would un-retire again as well.

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Old 08-19-2009, 02:15 PM   #52
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Tired of his retirement/un-retirement antics.

I can name ten (10) all-time QBs better than him (in no specific order).....

Unitas
Starr
Montana
Brady
Bradshaw
Aikman
Manning (Peyton)
Staubach
Elway
Marino

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Agreed, I am tired of his bullshit. I hope the Pack take him out in October when they play.

About your list though?????

1. What the hell is Aikman doing on the list? He does not come close to being as good as Brett Favre.

2. Where the hell is Young???? He was 100% better than Favre.

You put Aikman, Brady and Elway on the list, but not Young?????
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I like it.
If you push it over and over again you will get the same effect as real life.
Just be careful not to push it too fast or you might get confused whether your retired or not.
Oh wait, that's just like real life.
That will work then too.


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I like Favre but this is hilarious!



Anyway, Favre isn't going to be very good considering he missed all of training camp.
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Hey, I just heard Frank Gifford signed with the Miami Dolphins!
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Agreed, I am tired of his bullshit. I hope the Pack take him out in October when they play.

About your list though?????

1. What the hell is Aikman doing on the list? He does not come close to being as good as Brett Favre.

2. Where the hell is Young???? He was 100% better than Favre.

You put Aikman, Brady and Elway on the list, but not Young?????
I knew a Niner fan would get on me about Young.

The ten QBs I listed are not necessarily my top ten of all time, just ten off the top of my head that IMO are better than Favre. I agree, you can put Young on the list.

You've got a point about Aikman, it's arguable, but he's got three championships and was not nearly as reckless as Favre. Some rate Aikman lower because they say he had a great supporting cast at Dallas. My answer to that is a question.....

What QB who won three or more rings DIDN'T have great teams around them?

Answer: NONE

And Brady and Elway are better than Young. Young played on better teams than Elway and Brady probably still has a couple more championships left in him. Brady could maybe (emphasize maybe) end up as the greatest ever.

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..... Brady could maybe (emphasize maybe) end up as the greatest ever.

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Glad you put maybe because I would think Montana as the best ever. IMHO
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Glad you put maybe because I would think Montana as the best ever. IMHO
I agree, as of today Montana is still the best.

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Anyway, Favre isn't going to be very good considering he missed all of training camp.
3 weeks of training camp are not going to effect a great QB who has been playing for 20 years....

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I knew a Niner fan would get on me about Young.

The ten QBs I listed are not necessarily my top ten of all time, just ten off the top of my head that IMO are better than Favre. I agree, you can put Young on the list.

You've got a point about Aikman, it's arguable, but he's got three championships and was not nearly as reckless as Favre. Some rate Aikman lower because they say he had a great supporting cast at Dallas. My answer to that is a question.....

What QB who won three or more rings DIDN'T have great teams around them?

Answer: NONE

And Brady and Elway are better than Young. Young played on better teams than Elway and Brady probably still has a couple more championships left in him. Brady could maybe (emphasize maybe) end up as the greatest ever.

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Actually with Aikman, you can use the supporting cast arguement. Look at his statistics and how he played. He was not a great technical QB. He was a great leader and could manage a game well, but he does not deserve to considered one of the best QBs.

Elway better than Young? No way! If Young had started as many years as Elway his stats would be more comparative. Brady? I seriously doubt that he is technically better than Young. You could argue it though.

I don't base this off of Super Bowl wins.

Young had a strong arm, was the most accurate QB of modern times, and he could scramble. The NFL has not seen a QB that could throw and run since Young until Vick came along.
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