ADS NOT DISPLAYED TO REGISTERED USERS.
+ Reply to Thread
Page 3 of 19 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 ... LastLast
Results 31 to 45 of 282
Like Tree2Likes

T Bolt's 1:1 P-47 Cockpit

Start to Finish Builds Discuss T Bolt's 1:1 P-47 Cockpit in the Modeling forums; Looks great Glenn, from the picture looks like the throttle quadrant has some sharp edges on it...ouch -Chris...

  1. #31
    Member CONNOCHR's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    New York
    Posts
    36
    Country
    United States
    Looks great Glenn, from the picture looks like the throttle quadrant has some sharp edges on it...ouch



    -Chris

  2. #32
    Senior Member T Bolt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Chicago, Illinois
    Posts
    6,649
    Country
    United States
    Yes it does Chris. The top of my head had a dent that matches the levers on the underside of it. :

  3. #33
    Senior Member Geedee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Wiltshire, UK
    Posts
    2,627
    Country
    England
    Got to say Glenn, you turn out some first class metal work mate !

    Speaking of which, I used 18 guage Ali for my tub. Its easy to fold angles on (but a real s*d to go around curves !). I reckon you'd be fine with a sheet of that stuff as you dont have any compound curves on your rig.
    Cheers

    Gary



    My P-51D Cockpit Project http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/sta...ect-18113.html

    Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out and broken, shouting "Holy cr*p, WHAT A RIDE !!"

  4. #34
    Senior Member T Bolt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Chicago, Illinois
    Posts
    6,649
    Country
    United States
    Thanks Gary, It’s been a slow learning process. The aluminum I’ve been using so far (except for the main panel) is about 3/32” thick scrap I found. If I did my math right that translates to about 10 or 11 gauge. It’s a b**ch to bend. I have a 30” sheet metal break and I think I did it a permanent injury. Now I use a workbench vice and a rubber mallet bending a slight angle, 4” at a time, moving the bend point through the vise back and forth over and over again. It takes 4 of 5 passes to make a 90 degree bend, but it comes out as a neater bend than what I was getting with my break before it broke.

    I will have to buy some new material for the skin as the scrap I have is too bent up to use in a large area like that and the thickness would be overkill. Is 18 gauge the thickness of the original 51 skins you used for patterns? I’m sure I could use thicker material if I had to as it’s a simple one was curve and thicker material might make countersinking easier not to mention more dent resistant in the long run.

    I’ve searched the net trying to find the skin thickness of the 47 at the cockpit with no result. If anyone out there knows let me know. I’d like to know even if I decide to go with something thicker.
    Well I’ve been rambling enough. Next thing is to see if I can mount the panel.

  5. #35
    Senior Member Geedee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Wiltshire, UK
    Posts
    2,627
    Country
    England
    If I looked hard enough through the blueprints I could probably find out how thick the skin on the original was. However, I had two sheets of 8 X 4 X 18guage that I'd got fairly cheaply and had reckoned on using them from the start as its not a bad thickness to bend etc. Its also just about the right thickness to enable you to drill and then countersink the rivet holes. So far, I have around 800 + rivets holding my tub together, and the countersunk rivets I'm using sit very nicely in the holes I drill.

    When I marked the side panels out, I used Tony's originals and they where a bit thicker, but as my project is a ground gripper, I wasnt too worried about it. Having said that, now I've rivetted ths skins on, they are lovely and solid with the ribs and longerons behind to support them. Heck, I'd even be happy to fly behind them.....I wish !
    Cheers

    Gary



    My P-51D Cockpit Project http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/sta...ect-18113.html

    Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out and broken, shouting "Holy cr*p, WHAT A RIDE !!"

  6. #36
    Senior Member T Bolt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Chicago, Illinois
    Posts
    6,649
    Country
    United States
    I’m probably thinking about it too much. I think what worried me most was the countersinking as I will have in the neighborhood of 1000 holes. I feel a lot better about it now since it worked out OK for you. The thought of drilling all those holes in an expensive piece of aluminum with me not knowing what I was doing scared the c**p out of me. I bought myself a rebuilt Ingersoll rand drill and countersink cage but I have only tested it on a couple of holes – In wood – I guess I should practice some on aluminum scrap.

  7. #37
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Toowoomba
    Posts
    101
    Country
    Australia
    With ally breaking it means the folding edge is too sharp.Get a scrap strip of ally and bend it around first.Then bend the good stuff around the scrap and edge.Sorry for poor explaination but something pictures are needed for.Plus flu has muddled my brain...
    Countersinking is great for thicker ally but with thinner stuff you might have to look at dimpling.
    Hope you have some skin pins on hand...Check these out..
    Cylindrical Clecos Used
    looks amazing the work you guys are doing..Have all this spitfire stuff that we aren,t using,hmmmmm
    Last edited by Spits; 04-12-2010 at 04:40 PM.

  8. #38
    Senior Member Tony Hill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    South West, Australia
    Posts
    1,063
    Country
    Australia
    Quote Originally Posted by Spits View Post
    .Get a scrap strip of ally and bend it around first.Then bend the good stuff around the scrap and edge.


    Have all this spitfire stuff that we aren,t using,hmmmmm

    Spits...that is a great tip, thanks.

    And that sounds like dangerous talk at the end there!




    Glenn, more pics, more pics, more pics.....keep up the great work.



    .
    Darryl


    My Spitfire FR Project
    http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/sta...1-a-17217.html


    In memory of Flt Lt Tony Hill who, on 5 December 1941, at the request of Doctor R V Jones, successfully photographed a small "Würzburg radar" at Bruneval on the French coast. This from a height of only 200 ft, at high speed, under fire and from a camera mounted obliquely behind the cockpit.

  9. #39
    Senior Member T Bolt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Chicago, Illinois
    Posts
    6,649
    Country
    United States
    Spits:
    Thanks for the advice on bending aluminum. That sounds like it will help out a lot as some of my bends turned out a little tight.

    Darryl:
    I'm working hard on something to take pictures of!!
    With a little luck, the panel will be mounted this coming weekend. I’m keeping my fingers crossed!

  10. #40
    Senior Member T Bolt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Chicago, Illinois
    Posts
    6,649
    Country
    United States
    Started prep work last night to mount the panel and found that the landing gear indicator gauge interfered with the main transverse unistrut that the lower panel and rudder pedals are attached to. It worked when I did the trial fit but I had since added a plug to the gauge in an attempt to make it functional with the landing gear lever. After much bad language the strut was removed (with difficulty) and notched out with my angle grinder as shown below. I had hoped I was done with cutting steel. I have come to appreciate the machining properties of aluminum.

    Hopefully things will go better on the second try.

    Have also started work on the windscreen de-froster. Pictures later.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails T Bolt's 1:1 P-47 Cockpit-p4141644.jpg  

  11. #41
    Senior Member Tony Hill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    South West, Australia
    Posts
    1,063
    Country
    Australia
    Glenn


    Agreed on Alu..the couple of times i have had to do bits in steel, I have sulked for three days.


    Can't wait to see your next batch of progress pics
    Darryl


    My Spitfire FR Project
    http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/sta...1-a-17217.html


    In memory of Flt Lt Tony Hill who, on 5 December 1941, at the request of Doctor R V Jones, successfully photographed a small "Würzburg radar" at Bruneval on the French coast. This from a height of only 200 ft, at high speed, under fire and from a camera mounted obliquely behind the cockpit.

  12. #42
    Senior Member T Bolt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Chicago, Illinois
    Posts
    6,649
    Country
    United States
    A little more progress.

    Decided the de-froster and cockpit ventilation duct would be easier to install before the panel was in the way so I made them up today.

    The first two pictures are the de-froster bar vent from the real thing.
    The 3rd, 4th and 5th pictures is of my version made out of copper tubeing. Made up, test fitted and finally painted and installed
    The 6th picture is the real thing again. The thing in the red circle is the cockpit vent nozzle
    Picture 7 is my version roughed out of a piece of 1-1/4” PVC tubing and a T fitting. It hill be smoothed out with bondo, sanded, and the open ends of the T will be capped with aluminum disks left over from cutting out the panel (Amazingly enough the exact size I need) and painted with chromate primer before being attached to the floor.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails T Bolt's 1:1 P-47 Cockpit-01-0447531.jpg   T Bolt's 1:1 P-47 Cockpit-02-4021_search-lost-fighter-4_12801024.jpg  

    T Bolt's 1:1 P-47 Cockpit-03-p4161663.jpg   T Bolt's 1:1 P-47 Cockpit-04-p4161662.jpg  

    T Bolt's 1:1 P-47 Cockpit-05-p4161664.jpg   T Bolt's 1:1 P-47 Cockpit-06-p47-lt.jpg  

    T Bolt's 1:1 P-47 Cockpit-07-p4161668.jpg  

  13. #43
    Senior Member Wayne Little's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Adelaide Sth. Aust.
    Posts
    35,532
    Country
    Australia
    Top stuff mate!

  14. #44
    Senior Member Tony Hill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    South West, Australia
    Posts
    1,063
    Country
    Australia
    Very nice Glenn. I'm hating you more each time I tune in
    Darryl


    My Spitfire FR Project
    http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/sta...1-a-17217.html


    In memory of Flt Lt Tony Hill who, on 5 December 1941, at the request of Doctor R V Jones, successfully photographed a small "Würzburg radar" at Bruneval on the French coast. This from a height of only 200 ft, at high speed, under fire and from a camera mounted obliquely behind the cockpit.

  15. #45
    Member CONNOCHR's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    New York
    Posts
    36
    Country
    United States
    Hey Glenn, nice work. Whats the story with the fire damaged cockpit photo?

    -Chris
    Its just hours of boredom interrupted by moments of unbelievable horror

+ Reply to Thread
Page 3 of 19 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 ... LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. What cockpit is this?
    By B-17engineer in forum Aviation
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 01-17-2008, 03:59 AM
  2. P-40M cockpit
    By Wurger in forum Aircraft Picture Requests
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 10-10-2007, 09:51 AM
  3. Yak-23 Cockpit
    By Pisis in forum Post-War
    Replies: 23
    Last Post: 10-04-2007, 12:03 PM
  4. Cockpit
    By dcandal in forum Aviation
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 06-15-2007, 01:18 PM
  5. Yak-3 Cockpit?
    By Pisis in forum Aircraft Picture Requests
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 09-18-2006, 04:12 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86