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    You are welcome ,Charles.





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    Wurger top choice for markings. Go for it Charles...

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    Wayne: I am going to.... my problem will be decals. Is there a way to
    make your own ?

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    Dear Charles,
    Of course there is a way to make your own decals.Therefore I've asked you about the good quality printer.
    And certainly I'll help you with this as much as possible.




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    Wurger: Thanks.... I'm all ears ! I have access to several black & white
    good quality printers, and several color ones, too.

    Charles








    Real airplanes have round engines and two wings !

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    Well,there should be no problem to make some markings for the Fw190.But could you tell me what kind of covering is going to cover the model? I mean balsa or paper.What kind of a varnish are you going to use to make it waterproof?




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    Very nice!






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    Wurger & all: In an attempt to pin down the model of the FW-190, I have
    uploaded a part of the plan, showing the "bumps". I have them circled.
    Also note the position of the guns. Two MG's on top of the cowling,
    two near the wing root and two more outboard of the landing gear.
    The one's in the wings are probably cannon. I picked up all of the
    RLM colors except the schwarzgrun. That's on order.

    Working on it tonight, got the rudder finished. Heard about a new technique
    for covering, at the hobby shop, today. I'm going to try it on the rudder
    and elevator.

    Also note the circle just aft of the black cross. This circle is white with a
    black outline around the outside, and a smaller black ring on the inside.
    Almost like a British roundel, but the circle is all white.

    Charles
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    Hallo Charles,
    Looking at the plan I've noticed it was FW190A3 but not A4 or later ones.So we have to find camo pattern for an early version of The Wurger.Besides the roundel should be omitted,this is my opinion.I don't remember any Wurger with these markings.I know about the only one Fw190A3 which was worn the RAF roundels during its tests at RAE in Farmborough in 1942.It was Lt.Arnim Faber's one of the III./JG2.And during the tests it wore the RAF camo with typical early markings.The RAF number MP499.In the pic below we can see this a/c,the lighter patches on its engine cowling and aft of the roundel are places where the III./JG2 emblem and the yellow "P" letter in yellow circle were early painted .

    See you later.
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    Maybe we can try this one.
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    Wurger: Ok, we have it pinned down to a FW-190A3. I'd like to find a
    desert camo for this..... I think it really looks great. The roundel I mention
    is not British.... It was all white, with a small black circle in the center.
    Must be an outfit or personal marking. I still like the colors of the A4
    you put up..... that was really neat. What's the biggest difference in the
    A3 and the A4 ?

    Charles








    Real airplanes have round engines and two wings !

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    Wurger, could the roundel be a custom Gruppe IV sumbol or Gruppe Techincal Officer? I know sometimes they changed some markings around.

    "If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it's English, thank a soldier!"


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    To be honest I haven't ever seen such a big circle on Fw190s.Even if it was a Gruppe symbol it had enormous diameter.The IV Gruppe had a symbol like in the first uploaded pic.As far as the technical officer symbol is concerned,this always followed a schevron symbol like shown in the second amd third ones.
    But I'll check it again.
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    Ok, Wurger and Charles, checked a few of my books and found photos of the following:

    1. Osprey FW 190 Aces of the Western front by John Weal on page 59 shows a color plate of an FW 190A-3 of Oblt. Moritz, Stflkpn of 11./JG 1 sporting a black roundel with white edging from July 1942.

    2. FW 190 at War by Alfred Price on pages 72 and 73 show several B/W photos of a FW 190A-4 of IV Ergaenzungs Gruppe of Schnellkampfgeschwader 10 with a large white roundel near the tail.

    3. FW 190; Workhorse of the Luftwaffe by the National Air & Space Museum on page 47 shows a B/W photo of a FW 190A-8, unknown unit, that was captured southwest of Bourges, France with a large roundel, possibly black outlined in white, just behind the cockpit.

    Maybe these will give a clue as to where we're headed.

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    1.I don't have the book but I have seen this but don't recall myself the profile.

    2. Do you mean the A4 W.nr.145381 "white or yellow 7" of IV./SKG10 flown by Oberfahnrich Helmut Wenk in Cognac,France 1943?

    3.Unfortunately the book is not available in Poland so I cannot tell anything about that.

    Ad.2 If yes the circle wasn't as big as the one in the Charles' plane.Generaly, the symbol had a diameter equal in the thickness of the "arm" of the German cross.
    I think that the circles in the rest of pics, you have found ,are almost the same.

    But nice you 've helped us.THX very much.
    Last edited by Wurger; 10-14-2007 at 11:34 AM.




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