First air victory of WWII (1 Viewer)

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Think its becouse p11 can make a much tighter turn than the 109 wich was just a hell of a lot faster, but this way the p11 could outturn the 109 and hit it a couple of times. Just like in holland in the early days when the germans invaded it. The d21's performance was (ofcourse) more worse than the 109 but it turned tighter. But it aint a better fighter than the 109 (ofcourse).
 
Although just A flight sim, I evaded 16 Ace level P-51's in a P.11 (for fun) and even shot a couple down. I stayed away from them by constantly turning. my desire to kill lost me it though...
 
LOL! Sounds formilure to me. Here are some thoughts some people shared with you (including me!) altough we can live another day to tell the stories without the chance of being shot down for the very (VERY) last time of your life... [-o<

(especially the right bottom one is formiliure for me in FB AEP PF.. :p)
 

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It's one thing evading and another making a kill. Also, you probably had unlimited ammo when you were in the P.11. The P.11s armament was extremely under-powered for effective combat.

Speed is one of the most important things when entering combat. The Bf-109 would have just needed to zoom in at high speeds and be all over the P.11 before it could react.
 
I was online once playing Il-2 FB and most of the people on the other side were flying I-15 or I-16s and they were turning tighter than my Bf-109 but it didn't matter because they could never get me, I just kept it at high speed, passed them and kept going straight. They didn't stand a chance.
 
Now, more about victims...

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A fragment of bomber's fuselage Dornier Do 17 E with KG 77 with code symbol 3Z+FR. The first victory of Władysław Gnyś achieved 1 September 1939 year at seven a.m. over Żurada near Olkusz...

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A second one...
 
maybe cos most of the polish kills ive heard of were against Do-17s and stukas.
 
POLISH AIRFORCE 1939

PZL P.7a (Fighter)
Engine: Bristol Jupiter VII.F
Horsepower (hp):520
Max Speed (km/h):327
Armament:2 x 7.92 mm
Crew:1
Service Ceiling (m): 8275
Max Range (km):600
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PZL P.11a (Fighter)
Engine:Skoda Mercury IVS2
Horsepower (hp):500
Max Speed (km/h):375
Armament:2 x 7.92 mm
Crew:1
Service Ceiling (m): 8040
Max Range (km): 550
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PZL P.11c (Fighter)
Engine:pZL Mercury VIS2
Horsepower (hp): 645
Max Speed (km/h): 390
Armament: 2 or 4 x 7.92 mm
Crew:1
Service Ceiling (m): 11000
Max Range (km):810
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PZL P.50a Jastrzab (Fighter)
Engine:Bristol Mercury VIII
Horsepower (hp):840
Max Speed (km/h):500
Armament:4 x 7.92
Crew:1
Service Ceiling (m): (?)
Max Range (km):
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PZL P.23B Karas (Bomber / Recon)
Engine: PZL - Bristol Pegasus VIII
Horsepower (hp): 680
Max Speed (km/h): 350
Armament: 3 x 7.92 mm 700kg
Crew:3
Service Ceiling (m): 7500
Max Range (km):1260
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LWS -6 Zubr (Bomber)
Engine:2 x PZL - Bristol Pegasus VIII
Horsepower (hp):680
Max Speed (km/h):380
Armament: 6 x 7.92 1000kg
Crew:4
Service Ceiling (m): 8000
Max Range (km): 1250
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PZL P.37B Los (Bomber)
Engine:2 x PZL - Bristol Pegasus
Horsepower (hp): 925 (each)
Max Speed (km/h): 445
Armament:3 x 7.92
Crew:4
Service Ceiling (m): 6000
Max Range (km): 2600
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RWD -14 Czapla (Recon)
Engine: PZL G-126B
Horsepower (hp): 470
Max Speed (km/h): 245
Armament: 2 x 7.92
Crew:2
Service Ceiling (m): 5000
Max Range (km): 580
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Lublin R-XIIID (Don't actually know how to say it in English its something like Military Cooperation)
Engine:Lorraine - Dietrich
Horsepower (hp): 650
Max Speed (km/h): 195
Armament: 1 x 7.92
Crew:2
Service Ceiling (m): 4450
Max Range (km): 600
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PZL M-26 Iskierka (Trainer)
Engine: Franklin - PZL F6A-350C1
Horsepower (hp): 205
Max Speed (km/h):270
Armament: 1x 7.92
Crew:2
Service Ceiling (m): (?)
Max Range (km): (?)

There were about
30 PZL P.7a
136 PZL P.11c
36 PZL P.37b
42 Lublin R-XIII
130 PZL P.23
21 RWD-14
41 PWD-8
and 9 Fokker VIIB/3m

During the Polland campaign Luftwaffe lost 285 aircrafts
and only th 40% of the 263 damaged aircraft repeired to operational status.
Polish airforce lost 333 aircraft 260 of which due to enemy activities
Only 25 military aircraft were detroyed on the ground.
More than 30 Polish aircraft were shot down by friendly antiaircraft fire
There were 14 german aircrafts shot down and another 31 Polish aircraft shot down.
And the first offensive operation in german territory took place at 2 September 1939 when a P.23 threw eight bombs of 50 kg in a railway facility (I can't write the name of the place because
I have it in greek and don't have a chance writing it correctly in english)
 
enough to shoot down a stuka dumb enough to attack a nimble little fighter
 

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