 | First air victory of WWII| Stories Discuss First air victory of WWII in the World War II - Aviation forums; At about 7:00 a.m., (other sources say 5:30 a.m.), two P-11c's moved onto the ... |
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01-29-2005, 12:07 PM
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At about 7:00 a.m., (other sources say 5:30 a.m.), two P-11c's moved onto the runway. Just after take off, at about 300 meters altitude, the Polish fighters were suddenly attacked by a pair of German Ju 87B dive-bombers, from I/StG2 "Immelmann". Uffz. Frank Neubert , piloting a "Stuka" coded "T6+GK", sucessfully shot at Medwecki and scored probably the first air victory of WWII. "Jedenastka" ("Eleventh" - popular Polish name of P-11) fell, and commander of the "City of Krakow" Regiment was killed. Gnys was now also under attack, but a few seconds later he shot at a "Stuka" piloted by Lt. Branderburg. From the German aircraft there appeared some smoke, but it managed to escape into the clouds and returned to Nieder-Ellguth Airfield. | 
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01-29-2005, 08:43 PM
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Epilogue: On August 31st, 1989, at 10:00 a.m., and after 50 years after the war, two combatants from either side met again - Wladyslaw Gnys and Frank Neubert - this time as friends. They were the first pilots to score air victories in WWII . | |
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01-29-2005, 09:07 PM
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Gnys did not return to his airfield, but flew directly to the German border. A few minutes later, he noticed a formation of two Do 17E bombers from KG 77, probably returning from the Krakow bombing. The Polish fighter pilot attacked the bombers with the advantage of altitude. After a few passes, both Do 17 bombers crashed in the country village of Zurada, near Olkusz city. One of the bombers had the call sign "3Z+FR" on the fuselage. All 6 German crew members were killed (one was identified as Uffz. Klose). On the return home to base, Gnys met alone He 111, but his guns were out of ammo | |
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01-30-2005, 12:25 AM
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01-30-2005, 01:58 AM
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01-30-2005, 12:35 PM
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"Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy." | |
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01-30-2005, 03:25 PM
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01-30-2005, 03:48 PM
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#8 | | He who does not skim
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01-31-2005, 12:54 PM
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#9 | | Master of Ewes
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"Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy." | |
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01-31-2005, 03:37 PM
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| and outgunned, very poor performance | |
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01-31-2005, 04:27 PM
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Consider that it was developed in the mid Thirties. It was simply of it's time - which doesn't mean it was a bad aircraft.
The fact that one of them shot down two modern German bombers in one sitting would suggest it really wasn't bad at all. | |
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01-31-2005, 04:27 PM
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| Lanc, are there any planes that you think aren't ugly? 
The P.11 is indeed a wonderful little plane
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01-31-2005, 05:06 PM
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02-01-2005, 12:39 PM
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02-01-2005, 06:14 PM
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| How did we know you would say that?
Wasn't there a time you said the Battle wasn't bad-looking?  | |
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