 | Need help from a WW2 dogfighting person| Stories Discuss Need help from a WW2 dogfighting person in the World War II - Aviation forums; I am currently working on a story that entails a lot of detail, especialy when it comes to dogfights. One ... |
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11-30-2005, 02:42 PM
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I am currently working on a story that entails a lot of detail, especialy when it comes to dogfights. One problem, aside from the short videos I have seen over the years on the History Channel, I have no experience as to how a dogfight should play out, and how much damage specific planes can absorb (especially from different guns). Many of the fighter forums have helped with damage ratios, but I'm still a bit fuzzy about how the fights themselves. With all of this, bear in mind that it is a Historical fiction book I'm working on. Also, this is only the preliminary set of chapters; I plan on expanding on the story much further when I have the time away from school work. Anyway, please submit a post If you have any Ideas as to where I might be fudging things, or if you can help with airial combat scenes.
Here is the story link http://www.fictionpress.com/read.php?storyid=1943010 | 
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11-30-2005, 04:37 PM
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11-30-2005, 05:55 PM
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Country: | Have you read "Thunderbolt" or "The Blond Knight." I thought both books were very discriptive in their air-to-air combat accounts. Even "The Forked Tailed Devil" had some pretty good combat from P-38 pilots...
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11-30-2005, 11:25 PM
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Country: | sad to say, but I have never even heard of those books. I spend most of my book money on the technical guides to every thing and anything concerning warfare. | |
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12-01-2005, 06:40 AM
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#5 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | Try to get your hands on at least Thunderbolt. It gives a discription of Robert Johnson flying his Thunderbolt over Europe, shooting down aircraft and getting shot at as well....
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12-01-2005, 04:17 PM
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#7 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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"Peter Three Eight." A whole bunch of P-38 combat information...
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12-01-2005, 04:56 PM
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Country:  | Terror in the Starboard Seat by dave macintyre is an excellent book dealing with a mossie night intruder crew that that covers both in air and ground experiances with humour and fact
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12-02-2005, 08:39 AM
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Country: | Muchisimo gracias!!!  Right, need to find time to read the stories. Stupid high-skool. It doesnt teach me nothing! | |
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12-02-2005, 09:51 AM
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Country: | You might also check fighter group association websites. They often have first hand accounts of pilots that flew the missions and their experiences. The 78th FG site has some interesting stuff about the Me-262 that they shot down, sort of. It was pretty much on the way down before Meyers shot it.
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12-02-2005, 02:26 PM
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#11 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ Have you read "Thunderbolt" or "The Blond Knight." I thought both books were very discriptive in their air-to-air combat accounts. Even "The Forked Tailed Devil" had some pretty good combat from P-38 pilots... | I have not read Thunderbolt but I enjoyed "The Blond Knight".
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12-02-2005, 02:41 PM
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#12 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet Quote: |
Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ Have you read "Thunderbolt" or "The Blond Knight." I thought both books were very discriptive in their air-to-air combat accounts. Even "The Forked Tailed Devil" had some pretty good combat from P-38 pilots... | I have not read Thunderbolt but I enjoyed "The Blond Knight". | There's a good part where Johnson gets the sh*t shot out of him, tried to bail out but the canopy was jammed - good reading even though it was a "Cadin" book.....
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12-02-2005, 02:50 PM
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Country: | Was el militario the only one to check and see if I had made any glaring errors (aside from my P40 N-2 model, and the earlier introduction of the Hurricane IIC) in my story??? | |
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12-02-2005, 03:13 PM
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#14 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | I have not looked yet, will check it out though, dont worry.
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12-02-2005, 08:58 PM
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