Pierre H. Clostermann, Leading French Ace

[the lancaster kicks ass]

there'll be no getting through to him.......

[ndicki]

Perhaps his mind is too narrow, and he can't understand why in every other culture in the world, the French are not well looked upon. (I have deliberately restrained the force of my language so as not to offend him or cause him to feel unloved.)

[lesofprimus]

Who gives a rats ass....

Ive been all over the Globe and met inhabitants from 4 Continents, and the French people as whole were the most inhospitable and rude populace...

And this toad isnt even from France...

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Originally Posted by Janus

So you have the mediocrity to openly assume racism against a friendly people on a forum and still act like you are a worthy poster , any healthy human being would lose respect for you seeing that ...

I don't make feeble excuses , i put you ignorance in evidence and posted historical facts that show it in daylight , but as you seem a shallow person , i wouldn't bother making your education anymore on this subject . BTW , it was twice , not 3 times , but you talk crap anyway , history didn't begin in 1870 , someone Napoleon conqueered the whole Europe for two decades until Egypt , and like the first Military academies in Western Europe were in France , or like the Crusaders , Templars , Hospitallers were actually overwhelmingly French all Grandmasters of the Orders were French except 1 exception , just like the finest Cavalry was French at the time , in fact they always have been extremely succesful in war especially between the 16th and 19th century were they were a dominant force in Europe under Louis XIV , XV , there are tons of things to say but that's probably going too deep for you and too long to post .



Bullsh .. , they had barely 800.000 men at their disposal , they had a full size German army , for your information Germany fields 7 millions men in June 1941 for Barbarossa ....

Anyhow it's cheap and convenient to brag about 70 years later and blame French ,Italians etc.. , when actually , it was the fact that you were on an island that saved you , and that you never won a war alone in your whole history , France did , many times .... And you should thank our American and especially our former Soviet Union friends (that destroyed between 80% of the German army ) , they did the job ..



Bulsh.. again , they didn't take the whole country , they took the northern part , they surrendered because they didn't want Paris to be destroyed and their country to turn into a battlefield again , the country wasn't fully recovered from an ecnonmical crisis and WWI .




So you are arrogant enough to engage the responsibility of other people to back your own vices ?
It takes some nerve but you'll probably find a couple of moron to support you , tbh i don't give a penny about it , some French used to tell me " tell me who do you get on with , i will tell you who you are " ..




You claimed that you didn't think French aces existed , i just proved you wrong , simple .

I only restricted myself to only 3 WWII aces to make short , but i could quote more , but i'll need to research which i can't be bothered at this point , especially to share anything with someone filled with ignorance and xenophobia and who on top of all , is proud to show it to everyone ...



I don't think anyone ever contested that English is the International language , they are free and personally i think it's great that they try to protect and promote their language who is spoken in dozens of countries across the world , that doesn't prevent them to learn other languages like German , Russian Spanish , Italian .... something people like you are most likely incapable seeing your hostilty against the French which shows a narrow mind .

That has never been the subject of this thread btw , thanks for sharing your ignorance again .




You should be proud of you , Great conclusion , you look really smart .
And German are God gifts to Russians ,Italians are cowards , French doesn't how to fight , they only know cheese and wine ? good , continue like this , i hope that you will not raise your child with this mentality , because you seem to be a lost cause already i'm afraid ...

No actually Lanc is very well respected in this forum. However you my friend are just a Noobie. You come in here with the attitude. You have to earn your respect and you have not done so.

You disagree with Lanc that is fine, but you dont go straight into the thread and insult him. Im giving you a warning for this attitude. Keep it up...

You claim that Lanc is arrogant and ignorant. YOu have proven me your ignorance and that you are very naive. The same things you blame Lanc for you do in your own posts.

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Originally Posted by lesofprimus

Who gives a rats ass....

Ive been all over the Globe and met inhabitants from 4 Continents, and the French people as whole were the most inhospitable and rude populace...

And this toad isnt even from France...

I agree with you fully. I have been all over the world and the French allways give that "We are ze french, we are ze greatest gift to ze world!" With there damn noses stuck up in the air.

It is a shame that a city like Paris is overun with French. I really enjoyed the 4 times I have been to Paris but it would have been better if the French had not been there.

[ndicki]

You want to go in August. The worst of the SOBs are all on holiday either on the south coast of France (you'd be surprised how few French people actually never really leave France - good thing for the rest of us, though!) or going round the canyons in Utah!

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Last time I went to Paris was last August. Took my wife there for her Birthday and our Wedding Anniversary. I really like the city (but would be better without the people) especially the University area, it has great restaurants and for a better price. I remember sitting at a Cafe near Napoleans tomb and drinking a beer and I paid 11 Euros for it. It was also the nastiest beer I have ever had. 1664 it was called and was on par with Budweiser.

[lesofprimus]

It was also the nastiest beer I have ever had. 1664 it was called and was on par with Budweiser.

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Have you tried it. The French serve it in an small fruit punch bowl (like a man wants to drink it in a fruit punch bowl) and it has a nasty sweet flavor to it. The French waiter said it was the best beer...

...Crap if you ask me.

[lesofprimus]

Ive had it man, and I didnt finish my second one.... But u and I are alike in our distaste of Bud....

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

You could not finish your second one. I could not finish the first.

[v2]

Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet

You could not finish your second one. I could not finish the first.

[lesofprimus]

The only thing I truly enjoyed in France was the art, architecture and of course, the nearly infamous Smash Sandwiches of Toulon...

[Janus]

Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass

hehe, it's 3 times, 1870/71 Paris taken by German states, mostly Prussia, the romoval of France as a threat unites Germany- WWI Germans stopped 30 miles short of Paris, it's the Marne river that stops them, the French spent the rest of the war on the defensive after the mutiny and it's left to the British to clean up,

Bullshit the French in clearly inferior numbers had the front stabilized in 1917 thanks to a hard fough war , they fought very well actually given their numerical inferiority ,and their aviator were better than yours ... and it's not the Marne river you ignorant FOOL , it's the episode of the Taxis of the Marne whe,nthey manage to get Hundred Thousand of soldiers in time to block the Germans . Ignorant .

Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass

that's along with our victories in the middle east and the naval blockade , i think you got a pretty good deal out of us! and Paris again taken in WWII, why didn't you learn a lesson first time around? and don't talk to me about Napoleon, incase your garlic eating teachers were too biased to mention this, it was us that beat him, on our own infact, and we had the largest empire the world has ever seen, we controlled 1/4 of the world.s surface and 1/3 of the population (unless i've gotten that the wrong way around) but either way,

Yes i know , you always attack the weak and divided people through history , recent history is no different , that 's why the Germans called you "Neidische Albion" , the cowards that attack only the indigens and weak , and that never won a major won Alone , always through alliances , had you had Land borders with Germany , you would have been destroyed even easily .
But indeed you can flatter your national ego with having defeated the Scots , the Irish , and the Indians etc.. Well done !

By the way , STFU , i ain't French , I'm Russian and proud to be , married to a French and living in Paris , i own that nationality now , and let me say you one thing , without my people , you' d speak German today , and We Kicked their F.. arse in case you don't know and more than once , just like the French crushed them in early 19th Century for more than 15 years , not just 4 , and defeated Otto in the 12th and later on gave them other major defeats , the first German victory against France occured 9 century after France was born ...

Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass

it's bigger than anything the French ever got, and whilst we were industrialising you guys were still back in the dark ages,

Not that bigger , and your indutrialization was made possible thanks also to French scientists and German scientist , 30 years in nothing in history , especially at the time , besides , it never prevented them to pioneers and good inventors in science , philospphy and military material (or is the inventor of Nobel , raidocativity finder , penicilin , or Pasteur , Lavoisier English ? you moron , there are about thousands case to quote , you don't equal them in that regards , especially the Germans , the French contribution to Western civilisation is at least equalt to yours ....)

Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass

so don't even try that one, and the comment about us having won no wars on our own is laughable, we have fought and won all over the world and have been doing so for many a year now...........

You never won any war alone you mediocre moron , you got your butt kicked in the Hundred Wars , you won a few battles against a divided France , once they united , they kicked your arse badle at Formigny and Castillon , you got owned , under Louis XIV , they kicked your arse again , everything you tried failed against them at the time , their country was the most powerful militarily , under Napoleon they kicked you arse again for 2 decades , until you got whole Europe to find under your banneer and they lost more because of lack of troops , unity and support , their troups were exhausted to fight against the whole Europe throughout 15 years , same happened to the Germans in WWII , may i remind you that we Russians were the first to defeat him convincingly and ALONE .

By the way don't mention WWI , because your contribution next to France and USA is ridiculous , not to mention that this war was started Mainly because of you British scum politicians , Germans were far more motivated to beat you than the French , the French were closer that's all .

It's funny that some Nazi nostalgic in this forum side with you , you were their worst ennemy by the way , but today many simple minded get interested and in love with Nazi Germany when they actually don't know **** about what really NSDAP was , only thing they like in it is race hierarchy , miltarist and warmongers ideals , not talking about their anti-Jew racism , but their political stance , especially against the Albions hiding on tehir island waiting for Mother USA to save them , apparently have been forgotten .

Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass

Vichy France was given more autonomy but ultimately there were a captured territory, infact after we bought back thousands of French soldiers off Dunquirke, they simply went back to Vichy France, wasn't that nice of them! and surrendering is having your country taken, "no no, we weren't captured, we surrendered" is laughable.........

You brought back SHITE , you FLED in 1940 , your soldiers were afraid , whilst the French were rushing to the front , you the English were trying to embark at Calais and Dunkerk .... the French fought with you , side by side , you didn't , you fled ...


By the way , might you understand in your small mind , that in France before 1940 , about 40% of the population was right-wing and pro-German , and were actually trying to institute a dictature of this sort , you have to take this into consideration when you speak about surrender , if you have the slightest idea of what is it to suffer a modern war on your own territory and have troops that are unmotivated and divided by politics .

It's not my country btw , what is laughable is your arrogance based on the fact that strangers saved your ass , now you take advantage of it to insult other people that are friendly toward yours . By the way one of this stranger was USA , and France send thousands of soldiers under Lafayette to help Americans get their indepedance , and sold many huge territories to them , today you can see the Statue of Liberty , a France gift to America .


Anyhow , i don't answer to your other xenophobic but especially ignorant BS , you have the same understanding of history as a 6 years old , so i leave it to you to have a selctive memory and puke some incomplete notions of history that suits your hate .

What is really incredible , the real point of this thread , is that external people will see how this forum and his moderator give me warnings , while they let someone openly spray his ignorance , that doesn't even know basics of Aviation history , but especially openly shout his racists stance s with real impunity , this is a proof that this is not a forum for educated people and what you only do is fuel and ecnourage the rest of the world , not only the French , to HATE you , and you will pay it in the future , but you'll probably not see it nor have the ability to understand it . I leave with this last message , there is no interest whatsoever to speak with people like this .

Cheers moron .

[pbfoot]

I'm sorry to inform you that France lost the fight for North America in the Seven Years war and swapped their rights to N America for the islands of Guadeloupe and Martinique