 | Sunderland vs. eight Ju 88's| Stories Discuss Sunderland vs. eight Ju 88's in the World War II - Aviation forums; Good story about the Mavis but rough luck for two B-17's.
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09-10-2007, 08:35 AM
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Country:  | Good story about the Mavis but rough luck for two B-17's.
Really unlucky for that crew of the Sunderland, and somehow weird that they again came across another pack of Ju 88's. Just couldn't take out the odds twice.
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09-11-2007, 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 16KJV11  Has anyone heard similar stories of German boats fending off Allied attacks and surviving? | I have heard of Arado 196's being used to intercept A/S patrol aircraft of the French coast, mainly Whitleys. Must be the slowest intercept / dogfight of the war. | |
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09-14-2007, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Glider I have heard of Arado 196's being used to intercept A/S patrol aircraft of the French coast, mainly Whitleys. Must be the slowest intercept / dogfight of the war. | Like WW 1 with out the maneuverability..
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10-18-2007, 08:43 PM
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January 28, 1970 - James C. "Casey" Quinn, an aircraft/mission commander of an Air Force HC-130P from 39th AARS operating from Udorn, thailand was refueling HH-3E Jolly Green Giant helos when attacked by a MiG 21. Wheteher from gunfire from the Jolly Greens and the Herc or from the evasive action by Casey, the Mig 21, flown by Pham Dinh Tuan crashed into a mountainside and was killed. Will try to post the whole story if I can.
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10-19-2007, 09:33 AM
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Country:  | I don't have exact stories; but the RAF and USAAF sent everything and anything over the Med to intercept German transports. So, the stories while not being famous, would be numerous. The Ju 52s were the main targets and B-25s were known to rip them out of the sky with ease.
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10-19-2007, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by plan_D I don't have exact stories; but the RAF and USAAF sent everything and anything over the Med to intercept German transports. So, the stories while not being famous, would be numerous. The Ju 52s were the main targets and B-25s were known to rip them out of the sky with ease. | That would be a site... a fine day to be a gunner, a rare treat.
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10-19-2007, 11:46 AM
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April 8, 1940: Nine He 111s of 1(F)./122 took off from Hamburg to check the area east of the Shetlands. One of these aircraft sighted the British 2nd Cruiser Squadron together with 11 destroyers heading north at high speed to intercept the suspected breakout to the Atlantic of the 'Admiral Hipper' and her escorts. Another of the 1(F)./122 Heinkels encountered a Sunderland of RAF No. 204 Sqdrn and a running fight ensued which resulted in the Sunderland crashing into the sea west of Bergen. The Heinkel returned to Hamburg undamaged.
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02-04-2008, 03:20 PM
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The Sunderland sure would make a easier target. Maybe the tail gunner was knocked out early. Short Sunderland flying boat (David Llewellyn James)
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02-04-2008, 04:16 PM
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10-26-2008, 09:59 AM
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10-26-2008, 10:11 AM
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Country: | [quote=RATHED;253969]Well, on the night of 15/16 March of 1944 a Lancaster from No. 617 was on a mission to bomb Metz when it was attacked by 3 Me-110 night fighters.
This is of particular interest to me and have not yet encontered this incident in my readings about this squadron if its possible could you please post the Bibliography from the book you quoted. Cheers
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| I admit that I have 617 bombing Woippy on the 15th March and Clermont Ferrand on the 16th March. | |
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