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Technical Requests Discuss Request about Fl number in the Technical forums; I have in my collection a "Kühlerklappenschater" (Switch for cowling flaps) from a Junkers 88 Does anyone knows the Fl-number ...

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    Request about Fl number

    I have in my collection a "Kühlerklappenschater" (Switch for cowling flaps) from a Junkers 88
    Does anyone knows the Fl-number of it??
    The writing in it:



    Bauart Siemens
    Bm. LDS 11 2/4
    Anf. Z. Fl (blank)
    40 Volt, 10A
    Gewicht 0,26 Kg#WerkNr. (blank)



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    I found that ref. in the Peter W. Cohausz book "Cockpit Deutscher Flugzeuge" :

    schater fur die Kühlerklappen linker & rechter Motor = Fl E 6313-01

    Hope that help,

    Cheers, Oliver

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    Thanks a lot Oliver.. But this is another Switch..
    The description of the one i own is "Kühlerklappen Schalter, Bm LDS 11-2/4 Diagraphic, Berlin"
    But no fl-number to find for it. This switch was the standard in Ju 88.. So i can´t believe that no fl number for it exist...
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    There is two Kühlerklappenschater in the Ju-88A1 cockpit and I should have wrote this way to avoid confusion, Sorry

    schater fur die Kühlerklappen rechter Motor = Fl E 6313-01
    schater fur die Kühlerklappen linker Motor = Fl E 6313-01

    As Fl 6313-01 a common Fl nummer I think that must be yours... but...

    Cheers,

    Oliver

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    Hi Oliver
    Thanks again! I take a trip at march 15th to the Luftwaffenmuseum at Berlin Gatow.. With this Fl number in my pocket i will look for some instrument to compare
    i´m sure they will there hold such stuff...
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    I have just checked all my FL reference and it appears only as you
    describe,no FL or Aircraft type beside it.
    I thought it could also be ME110,but the picture I saw with it
    fitted is post war and the 110 used fle630201.
    99% sure its JU88 (LATE WAR)..Good Luck!

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    100% sure that is ju 88 !
    A5 1940 approved..... , Werknummer and location of crash known !
    This type of switches are built in every Ju 88 i have seen
    Pictures from the console..
    Maybe Guttorm can say something about this??
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    its really a mystery that this part does not have a Fl number. we have those in our A1 as well ( 1939 ) and it says the same on those--identical to the one you have there !! but No Fl number on any of those as well..and this 88 A1 was buildt in 1939.. its really strange that there is no Fl number as there Must be one..and i doublechecked in the same book as Saburo has.. and it does give the Fl number there but there are no numbers printed on the part itself.. that is strange and yes.. i know the wreck you are talking about and that schalter is from the 1940 A5 !! so its 100% Ju 88 Heskiel as i also know the guy you got it from

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    Many thanks to clear that up Mr. G
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    Hi Hesekiel,

    My guess best on you finding an answer would lie here. I cant read German and Im better at Japanese insturments but you will find this web site very interesting if you havent seen it before.

    Luftwaffe Cockpitinstrumente Homepage Titelseite Instrumente Gertebrett Baumuster

    Paul

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    Many thanks Midcrow
    This site is well known.. Unfortunately this part is not shown there.. They have a "Kühlerklappenschalter" from the Me110 posted... Maybe i will write a Email to them..
    This site is indeed VERY interesting and they own a LOT of stuff..

    What is confusing me is the fact Guttorm wrote.. The have some of them at the museum and NONE of them have the fl-number printed on.......
    This is very unusual for Luftwaffe Equipment whats used in Masses
    (2 in each Ju 88 )
    Last edited by Hesekiel; 04-06-2009 at 04:37 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hesekiel View Post
    Many thanks Midcrow
    This site is well known.. Unfortunately this part is not shown there.. They have a "Kühlerklappenschalter" from the Me110 posted... Maybe i will write a Email to them..
    This site is indeed VERY interesting and they own a LOT of stuff..

    What is confusing me is the fact Guttorm wrote.. The have some of them at the museum and NONE of them have the fl-number printed on.......
    This is very unusual for Luftwaffe Equipment whats used in Masses
    (2 in each Ju 88 )
    I have at least one book on German insturments in English. I will take a look though I doubt they will have what you are looking for. If I remember right its mainly on fighters though will look.

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    Thanks!
    Maybe there is something written about the missing of the fl-number...

    Here you will see the two switches build in into the left console in "Guttorms" 88.. And you will find the on every Cockpitphoto of a 88...

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    Cool shot, I was just thinking.

    By chance have you gone through these manuals here on the Ju-88. I know in some of them they have pictures of the cockpitphoto and labled what they are. Maybe be lucky and find your number. Im so hampered by not being able to read German.

    http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/oth...al-s-5375.html

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    Well.. then i will have a look there...
    I like to know almost everything about my "little treasures"
    And a missing fl-number is a absolutely "no-go" *gg*
    Thanks for help!!!
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