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Lifting body, SU-26 on skis, concordski, and others
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I tripped across this page... Very cool.
Lifting body, SU-26 on skis, concordski, and others
I posted this in "Landing Neutral Country" too but it's worth a look for those that missed it. Monino museum highlights
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Originally Posted by comiso90  SU-26 on skis. | The skis created a large "rooster tail" of dust and dirt following touchdown and during roll-out. They nevertheless allowed the aircraft to operate from extremely rough surfaces.  | |
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Originally Posted by Graeme The skis created a large "rooster tail" of dust and dirt following touchdown and during roll-out. They nevertheless allowed the aircraft to operate from extremely rough surfaces. | Very interesting.. thanks for the photo... did it have a drag chute for landing on snow?
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The YAK-15 is pretty cool looking... Russian Federation Air Force Museum at Monino, Russia
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Originally Posted by comiso90 Very interesting.. thanks for the photo... did it have a drag chute for landing on snow?
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They tried various combinations... 
They also developed a ski/wheel combination that could land on 'almost' any surface.  | |
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10-17-2007, 11:32 AM
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The aircraft in the museum photo does not have a wheel on the nose gear. I was wondering if they experimented on frozen lakes and snow. There a drag chute would be helpful. With all the interest in the Arctic now a days, I'm curious to see the new weapons systems that will be developed.
I cant imagine using RATO to take off from a bog! snag a skid and tumble into a cloud of flames!
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10-26-2007, 06:57 PM
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Country: | Amazing website, thanks for posting. I like how the civilian Tu-95 still has the plexiglass nose.
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Originally Posted by Aggie08 Amazing website, thanks for posting. I like how the civilian Tu-95 still has the plexiglass nose. | Matt, the Plexiglas nose, for the navigator, was utilised on Tupolev's transport aircraft from 1946 until the early 1960s. I don't think it's a leftover concept from a bomber genesis. The Tupolev Tu-70, Tu-75, Tu-104, Tu-110, Tu-114, Tu-124 and early models of the Tu-134 all had a visual navigators position. It was finally dispensed with in later versions of the Tu-134 which used the Gronza weather radar.
I don't know why Tupolev insisted on having this position incorporated in his early airliner designs, but it was dispensed with after his death.
The Tu-134, apart from a glazed nose, was also a testbed for numerous other 'noses' including that from the Tu-160. 
The navigators position in the Tu-114. You can just make out the glazed nose behind him. 
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Country: | Thanks for the info Graeme (I want to pronounce that "Grimey", what's it mean?) The glass nose would be nice I suppose, but does not seem at all necessary.
If i saw that damn transport I'd think "Run like hell, they painted it funny and it's comin for us!"
Comiso, you might just be on to something. First forum gathering there!
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Thanks for the info Graeme (I want to pronounce that "Grimey", what's it mean?)
| Try pronouncing it phonetically as "Grey-em." It's just a first name, Scottish, I think, probably means 'Loser'! Quote: |
The glass nose would be nice I suppose, but does not seem at all necessary.
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10-28-2007, 05:30 AM
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Russkies have their own ways of doing things. To each his own I suppose. Keeps a good deal of this forum active, that's for sure!
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