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Old 04-26-2005, 02:23 AM   #16
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Thanks for that Bomb you made some very interesting points there.
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Old 05-24-2005, 06:00 AM   #17
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But then with a parachute and plane-bombardment you have the ultimate weapon as you could drop behind the trenches with light equipment and create merry hell while the trenched troops were preparing to face you. All the trenches were designed to defend from a particular direction, therefore if you are shooting from behind it the power of the trench may to an extent be negated for the defending side.
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If Ive understood your post correctly Healz, theres a few problems with it. First of all, paratroop assaults were simply not viable in WW1. The British and Commonwealth forces distrusted the parachute to the extent that they banned aircrews from using it, as they believed it encouraged cowardice...so it was unlikely they were going to train the PBI to use it. More to the point, there wasnt an aircraft in existence that was suitable for airborne forces deployment. Even the heaviest bombers of the day were too slow and vulnerable to be used for paradrop duties, and there was also a total lack of capable escorts. Neither side ever achieved true air superiority during WW1 (as the Allies did on the ETO 1944-5), so the risk was simply too great.
As for your comment on the utility of bombers in a support role, there are several points to be made. First, there was simply no reliable means of selecting and attacking a point target during WW1. Even the most rudimentary optical bombsights did not exist - the Norden sight was the first truly accurate optical sight in service. Furthermore, tactical bombers such as the DH9 carried such a small bombload that field artillery was still a more efficient and accurate method of delivering HE to a specific target. On top of these considerations, it was impossible to mount an effective interdiction campaign, never mind a fully strategic campaign, which would have been necessary in order to make close air support operations possible. This is, again, mainly due to a lack of both escorts and adequate intelligence/targeting systems. As a final point, C3I structures in place in WW1 ruled out the possibility of aircraft being used for close air support missions. As it took at least 4 hours for a company to conatacy it's battalion, and a day for battalion to contact brigade in most combat circumstances, there was simply no point in calling in airstrikes as they would never arrive at the right place at the right time.IMHO, any attempt to airland troops behind enemy lines would have inevitably suffered from a lack of support, supplies, and reinforcements.

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Old 08-04-2005, 02:19 PM   #19
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I have a suspision that my great grandfather fought with the Accrington Pals, could anyone give me an idea of how i can find out please.
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Well, you could try the Imperial War Museum, the Commonwealth War Graves Commission (if he was killed in the Great War) or there might be regimental records.
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THANKS MATE I WILL TRY THAT
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Old 08-04-2005, 02:52 PM   #22
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Well, it's not very helpful, I'm afraid, but it might be a start. the CWGC have an exccllent site.
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There is also the East Lancashire Regimental museum at Fullwood Barracks in Preston - you can go through the records there.
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