 | Best Ace of WW1| World War I Discuss Best Ace of WW1 in the Other Eras forums; well the first few times enemy planes met they waved and tried to shout at each other, that soon changed.......................... |
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05-23-2004, 07:33 AM
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#16 | | Master of Ewes
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Country:  | well the first few times enemy planes met they waved and tried to shout at each other, that soon changed.......................
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11-22-2004, 02:00 PM
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#17 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | Manfred von Richthoffen the great Red Baron was probably the greatest and for me is actually the greatest of all times because he was the ace of aces in WW1 the first war with aircombat. Not to take anything away from the other great aces of WW1 from England and America but if I recall from reading a book on Richthoffen when he died airmen from many nations including England, France and the US attended his ceremony along with Germans that says something about the respect the man recieved. I can only think of one other soldier who still today is so highly respected by his enemies and that is Rommel. I attend his memorial service every year near Ulm, Germany and there are German, French, British, and American soldiers there dressed in there best uniforms laying wreaths and flowers at his grave. Even many of the surviving members of the famed Afrika Korps are there in there uniforms, it really is a somber sight to see and very amazing.
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02-08-2005, 11:51 AM
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#18 | | Banned
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No one mentioned Mannock(73) or Bishop(72)?
Besides the Baron, there was Oberl. Ernst Udet(62) and Oberlt. Erich Löwenhardt(56). | |
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02-08-2005, 01:35 PM
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#19 | | the old Sage
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Country:  | Believe it or not but the chap, slim at one time during WW 1, Hermann Göring was quite a competent pilot flying his famous all white Fokker DVII. He was actually quite good. "Red" was excellent no doubt but there were quite a few other Pour le Merit winners that should be mentioned and no doubt French/British as well. quite a tribute should be shown these noble and brave pilots, flying nothing by our standards as total junk heaps, but boy could those little things turn.........
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02-08-2005, 02:01 PM
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#20 | | the old Sage
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Country: | did a little digging in my old ww1 files. Hermann Goering took over his white DVII with Red crosses in October of 1918 as Kommandeur of the 1st Jagdgeschwader "Richthofen"
Ernst Udet flew the craft a couple of times. The werke nummer of the white a/c was 3226 and had a BMW 3a engine.
Goering had 22 kills | |
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02-08-2005, 02:07 PM
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#21 | | Forum Politruk
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Country:  | From what I've heard, Rudolf Hess was no slouch in the cockpit either. | |
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02-08-2005, 02:15 PM
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#22 | | the old Sage
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Country: | Med thanks for that will have to do some more research on his carreer. never knew he ever flew during ww 1. next thing is that we will find that H. Himmler the slime-ball as being a WW 1 ace !!  | |
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02-08-2005, 05:22 PM
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#23 | | the old Sage
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Country: | heres a pic of fatty or should I say slim with his craft | |
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02-08-2005, 05:36 PM
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#24 | | Senior Member
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Country: | Didn't Goering take over Richtofens Jasta 11, when he died?
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02-08-2005, 05:44 PM
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#25 | | the old Sage
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Country: | actually Manfred was leading JG 1 and after his death Wilhelm Reinhard took over till July 1918 when he was killed test flying an a/c and Göring then took over command of JG 1 till war's end. For Jasta 11 I am not sure | |
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02-08-2005, 05:47 PM
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#26 | | Forum Politruk
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Country: | Nah, Himmler was a Chicken Farmer - he did have a degree in Acricultural Economics though. | |
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02-19-2005, 10:41 AM
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#27 | | Senior Member
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| Hi
Hi,
From the German side I also would like to mention Oswald Böelcke. He was the leading ace among the pilots when he died in October, 1916, with 40 victories.
Besides that he created the famous "Boelcke Diktat", the universal rules to any fighter pilot.
Just my two cents.
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02-19-2005, 11:08 AM
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#28 | | He who does not skim
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Originally Posted by KraziKanuK | Without trying to start an argument, Bishop's 72 kills were confirmed while only 61 of Mannock's were. Many sources choose to overlook that.
But then, there was René Fonck with 75 victories. | |
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03-21-2005, 04:17 PM
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#29 | | Senior Member
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| And he made probably more than the 75 confirmed. He usually kept on to flying lone missions over geman held terretory. No one knows how much he shot down there. And he managed to survive the war! The most inspiring for me are either Albert Ball or Werner Voss. Incredible pilots.
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03-22-2005, 11:22 AM
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#30 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Medvedya Nah, Himmler was a Chicken Farmer - he did have a degree in Acricultural Economics though. |
Hate to think what he did with the chickens!!!
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